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RED Projector...

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October is going to be a long month :( We are in the market for new cameras and I was about to jump on a new 3D projector. I guess I'll keep the CC in my wallet for a little longer.
 
Jannard said:
We have a very narrow target.... shoot 5K, post to 4K, deliver with REDray and display with the new RED projector, 2D and 3D. Easy stuff to understand.

Jim
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Hi Jim,

Will the popular finishing system would provide finishing for REDRAY by the time the REDRAY is available?
 
looking forward to seeing this first hand. I know that a projector with this level of definition and quality will certainly be welcomed by all in the entertainment biz but my clients in education especially medicine and engineering will be more willing to get into 3d demos at this level of quality.
 
Kinda thinking out loud here, but... I wonder if Jim's comment is something of a response to the info trickling out of Barco the past couple days. Two days ago, Barco announced they will be demonstrating their new laser projection engine in 3D, as well as their new 4K DLP system, on January 9, 2012.

I like the sound of "sooner rather than later". I'm kinda in the market for a projector. :)
 
This is all very, very exciting, for sure. But what about passive 3D's drawbacks, like the necessity of a polarization-retaining screen (which none of my current screens are) and the 50% loss of vertical resolution which affects passive 3D displays?

Having said that, I'm not entirely sure if the 50% loss applies to projection... I'm guessing it does, since LG's 1st gen passive 3D projector solved the problem by cramming two projectors inside one large chassis. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable could enlighten me?
 
Kaku Ito said:
Hi Jim,

Will the popular finishing system would provide finishing for REDRAY by the time the REDRAY is available?
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I think you need a RED RAY Pro to make a RED RAY deliverable.

What I'm quite curious about is if the RED Projector and RED RAY will be capable of playing back 48fps video at 48fps (e.g. The Hobbit). According to the RED RAY specs page it is capable of 47.96 and 48fps at 2k. I can't wait to see what the current specs are and how this all comes together.
 
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Eric Z said:
I'm afraid that neither HDMI nor CAT5 can support the data-rate required to transfer 4K material, unless heavily compressed.
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Depends on "heavily", I suppose. HDMI 1.4 supports 4096x2160/24fps at 24-36bit/pixel color depth.
 
Jannard said:
We have a very narrow target.... shoot 5K, post to 4K, deliver with REDray and display with the new RED projector, 2D and 3D. Easy stuff to understand.

Jim
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The only thing really missing is an affordable 4K Monitor for color correction and editing. Projectors are fantastic but for everyday editing and correction a 30" + monitor would really help.
With all the developments in 4K technology I was wondering why 4k monitors are taking so long to reach the market.
At the moment there are only a handful of 4K monitors available and all of them cost a fortune.
I guess the cost of producing the panels must be a major factor. Personally I would prefer a 4K monitor above any 3D 1080 panel.
Looking at the range of monitors available from companies like Eizo, NEC, TV Logic, Sony, Flanders etc there seems to be a huge gap in the market for a
high quality and reasonably priced 4K monitor for Digital and Print Media professionals.
Still this is a fantastic development from Red and one that set the bar for others to follow.
 
So awesome! Red is so hot right now!
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wow - thanks for the glimpse behind the curtain of what lies ahead.

RED roadmap is re-setting the standards for all imaging technology. This is huge.

Where can we buy tickets? What would be really fun would be a side by side comparison of the Sony 4K projector that you used to screen RED reels...and this monster that you're preparing to unleash.

The camera shoot-out games are over. Let the projector shoot-out games begin...
 
4K display is the final piece of the jigsaw puzzle...I remember the first time I say RED footage on the Sony 4K projector and it totally blew me away!

To have the ability to screen 4K at an accessible price point would be amazing.

Any word of RED doing 4K LCD displays? These are still selling for $40K+ but if you were to bulk buy from Chi Mei (they produce a 56” 3840x2160 panel) and add your own IO board then costs could be very reasonable and I think you'd sell thousands of them for use in post.

Keep up the great work.

Best wishes

Scott
 
Brandon J.F. said:
I think you need a RED RAY Pro to make a RED RAY deliverable.

What I'm quite curious about is if the RED Projector and RED RAY will be capable of playing back 48fps video at 48fps (e.g. The Hobbit). According to the RED RAY specs page it is capable of 47.96 and 48fps at 2k. I can't wait to see what the current specs are and how this all comes together.
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Resolve can output 4K no problem, but then what would be the inexpensive online system that can work with titles and so on? I guess Premiere Pro can do that now. I worked on low budget feature and after I finished color grading in Apple Color (evidently that was the last feature I worked on Apple Color before I changed to Resolve) then output as ProRes 4444, then did the online in 2K with FPC, did all of the titles and rolls, then sent to Resolve and Resolve did the Prores4444 to DPX conversion really fast and accurate. It was sent to lab to be the DCP with Pablo to do the 709 to XYZ adjusting. The images looked amazing even at 2K. Anyways, I want to do the same kind or better (without using Prores4444), our from Resolve and do the last online editing and output DPX or to REDRAY.
 
The great thing about laser-based display systems is the purity of color. It's theoretically possible that such a system could be capable of a color space that is larger than that perceivable by a human being in photopic vision. That by definition would mean a color space much larger than any of the standards used in this industry like NTSC, Rec. 709, or Adobe. It would be the ne plus ultra of displays where color is concerned. It sounds from the impressions of those who have previewed it, like RED is well on their way to achieving this.

I've seen large format Cibachromes. I've also had the privilege of seeing several portfolios of William Eggleston's dye-transfer prints up close. If you haven't seen these kinds of materials in person, the feeling is like looking through a window. One believes for a moment that he or she could reach into them and touch the things in the picture. Any projector that evokes Cibachrome is very exciting.
 
Jim,
One of the greatest flaws I experience with 3D theatrical projection has been screen brightness and resolution. Maybe your little machine can help our little Spiderman film much as the (then) prototype Epic helped us on principle photography.

Peter
 
Perfectly said Peter. Speaking as a cinema proprietor/projectionist, it's important we aren't the weak link when it comes to showcasing the final product. Just as important as keeping the cinemas alive as the launching point for a film's career. RED has lifted a lot off my mind by announcing both theatrical and consumer models
 
My dream projector can do 4k , auto adjusts aspect ratio , can do at least 12 bit color , auto focus , auto screen zoom , does every gamut up to and beyond cinema and doesn't need lamp replacements and is small and low to no noise
 
Nothing would spur adoption like Spiderman and Lord of the Rings if this projector and redray were the preferred or mandatory way of screening. Red
 
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