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RED Pro Primes vs. my vintage still lenses

Sanjin Jukic

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Thanks to Peter and Jarred finally we have got R3Ds from RED Primes to play.

So let's do it the first comparison

RED Pro Primes vs. my vintage still lenses:

RED Pro 85mm T 1.8 vs. Leica Summicron 90mm f/2

REDPro_85mm_01.JPG

Shot with RED1 using RED Pro 85mm T1.8 (23.98 FPS), the picture is from RED Alert.

Leica_SummicronR50mm_01.JPG

Shot with RED1 using Leica Summicron M 90mm f/2 (25 FPS), the picture is from RED Alert.

Quick & Dirty comparison 1K Footage (23.98 FPS and 25 FPS mixed)>>>

The curves applied in RA on both files are approximately with the same values.

So what you think?
 
Great to have the images in one thread!

The RPPs seem to have this modern, hi-end, "perfect" look which is very appropriate for a number of purposes.

... But I totally love the look of the old glass.
 
I notice that the choice of the shots shown indicates a manipulative tendency to favour one lens vs another ;-)
 
Paolo Tinari said:
I notice that the choice of the shots shown indicates a manipulative tendency to favour one lens vs another ;-)
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Yes. Especially foreground out of focus vs. foreground in focus

:)

But I still think old lenses produce more film-like results on RED.

:):)
 
Nice. Very sharp images. This was with no OLPF compensating or detail adjustment in Red Alert.

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I am glad no one wanted to buy my Leica Van Diemen set (15 19 21 24 28 35 50 75 100 135). These are great lenses and will probably will be useful to, what is considered, 5K.
As these are originally 35mm still lenses, and by the way they are color matched since beside the 100mm they are 1 out of 6 sets in the entire world which were made epcially for VFG, they cover horizontal move of the film like in Vistavision.
 
gdv said:
I am glad no one wanted to buy my Leica Van Diemen set (15 19 21 24 28 35 50 75 100 135). These are great lenses and will probably will be useful to, what is considered, 5K.
As these are originally 35mm still lenses, and by the way they are color matched since beside the 100mm they are 1 out of 6 sets in the entire world which were made epcially for VFG, they cover horizontal move of the film like in Vistavision.
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I am still very interested in those lenses! I am just spending my money on everything else RED right now (RPP's, Edit cc rooms, Matte Boxes FF4s) and I think I just Bought a Miller head and some sticks from you. I love my 135 van diem but I can't afford the whole set right now.
 
The latest comparison test between

1. Arri/Zeiss 85mm T2.1 Standard PL mount (S35mm lens)

2. Nikkor 85mm f/1.8 AF D Nikon F mount (FF35mm lens)

3. Leica Summicron M 90mm f/2 Leica M mount (FF35mm lens)

vs

RED Pro Prime 85mm T1.8 Arri PL mount (RED 5K lens) (taken from Peter Majtan R3D test file)

All shot on RED1 no.#0694, all @ 5.6, ISO 320, Filters: Formatt Circular Polarizer, Formatt ND. 0.3.

Quick & Dirty comparison test>>>

Test is done fast and easy with the selected copied/pasted QT proxy_M 1K files and then exported as H264.
 
RED Pro 300mm T3 vs. Carl Zeiss Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8

RED Pro 300mm T3 vs. Carl Zeiss Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8

RED Pro 300mm T3 vs. Carl Zeiss Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8

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Shot with RED Pro 300mm T3 on RED1 (REDCINE 30" LCD snap shot resized to 1920 wide).

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Shot with Carl Zeiss Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8 on RED1 (REDCINE 30" LCD snap shot resized to 1920 wide).

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Shot with RED Pro 300mm T3 on RED1 (REDCINE 30" LCD snap shot resized to 1920 wide).

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Shot with Carl Zeiss Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8 on RED1 (REDCINE 30" LCD snap shot resized to 1920 wide).

They where applied almost the same curves in REDCINE....

Don't forget my Carl Zeiss Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8 lens is made in Jena 1949 that was a part of former DDR (East Germany) and it was exactly 60 years ago and the lens design is from 1935 or 74 years ago.
 
Some more Tiffs

Some more Tiffs

Some more beautiful tiffs for free!!!

Pleasae download free some of my extraordinary 4K tiff made with those amazing vintage glass swaped on RED1:

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http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/A017_C002_0517QN_00000.tiff
Shot with Carl Zeis Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8, @ f5.6, ISO 320, 5600K, exxported from RA with no any CC,...



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http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/A017_C002_0517QN_02882.tiff
Shot with Carl Zeis Olympia Sonnar 180mm f/2.8, @ f5.6, ISO 320, 5600K, exxported from RA with no any CC,...

4K tiff to download>>
 
Sanjin, process that same shot of the flowers shot with RPP in Redcine without sharpening turned on, detail Medium or Low and process via Redspace as color space and Gamma as Rec 709. Do you get same result?
 
stevesherrick said:
Sanjin, process that same shot of the flowers shot with RPP in Redcine without sharpening turned on, detail Medium or Low and process via Redspace as color space and Gamma as Rec 709. Do you get same result?
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Hi Steve,

of course not.

Below are the links with my REDCINE screen shots (png):

Rec709>>>

REDSpace>>>
 
Be nice to see the same flowers/same angle on the RPP/Vintage lens... give a more accurate comparison no?

ha! just realized you didnt shoot the RPP... still be a nice comare!
 
Sanjin, I just saw this thread and I also agree with some comments about the images compared not being equal. Your flowers are backlit by sun, which makes them look so nice. It's like comparing DP's, not lenses - no offense...

I have uploaded more R3D's to our server:

A002_C029_05184T_00071.jpg

R3D link:
http://www.derylgroup.com/downloads/REDONE/LAGUNA/STILLS/DUSK/A002_C029_05184T_001.R3D

A002_C052_0518S3_00054.jpg

R3D link:
http://www.derylgroup.com/downloads/REDONE/LAGUNA/STILLS/DUSK/A002_C052_0518S3_001.R3D

A002_C083_05187E_00098.jpg

R3D link:
http://www.derylgroup.com/downloads/REDONE/LAGUNA/STILLS/NIGHT/A002_C083_05187E_001.R3D

Keep an eye on this thread for more to come...:

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30514

:) Peter
 
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