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RED ONE Shooting in Berlin, Germay - First clips from "Cold Storage" (Working Title)

I do wish to post here on behalf of RedRelay as I feel that some things were misspoken on the post by Axel.

We don't have space constraints on RR. What we do want is standardization. And, as QuickTime is the current leader in all aspects of showing RED footage online thus far, it is the format we choose to support.

What we are looking for is consistency. If all can vote on a standard format to release videos in that is not QuickTime that proves to be ultimately more efficient at displaying correct values then we will take that into consideration. But, seeing as how most of the people viewing these clips are Mac folk, most of the people are editing FCP, and all of the footage that has not been R3D at this point has been QuickTime, we feel the need to keep with that unless something else comes along that people are willing (on a wide scale) to use instead of QuickTime.

If you TRULY believe your footage is best viewed in another format, let us know! But, Axel posted 3 different formats which, for the sake of consistency, we believe, is not the best way to go.

Axel, if you feel that one format is better than QT, the please, feel free to put it online, but posting three major formats is, in our opinion, not in the best interest for us or the RR community.

Hi Chris,

I understand your point about Quicktime, but as some pointed out - not everybody has Quicktime on his systems nor is nurd enough to install it. And I understood RED Relay not only as exchange platform for RED ONE owners (hey, those don't need that after all, they can create footage their own...). I understood it to be interesting for 2 parties:

1. Those who ordered a RED and still don't have it.
2. Those who do not own or will not own a RED, but aim to use one or let use one in productions.

I don't argue on WMV and DIVX, both somehow platform bound formats too, still.

After re-thinking the situation I have to clearly underline that Claus is completely right with the choice of Flash H.264 codec for simple reasons:

1. You don't need to install Quicktime!
2. It performs install - if required - from the website itself, way easier for non-nurds. Very transparent.
3. I've yet to see gamma shifts from the Flash player (THAT counts).

But I need to send one info into Claus direction:

Its nice that you put in that info. And surely it wasn't easy task to download all that footage and then transcode to the new codec and finally publish it.

BUT

When I published material from our movie teaser on any websites in the Internet, I did so on behalf of my company and related people, having direct access to the right owners of all this and doing it in their best interest.

You have essentially no right to process this material any further, nor to publish it without any written allowance to do so! As long as we make the decision where to upload this material, its up to us and therefor under control. If poeple start to do what they want with copying and spreading the data, its clear it gets out of control.

That being said I'd say thanks for pointing us to Flash H.264 codec and for your clearly honest aims. I encourage you to ask people for allowance BEFORE copying their movies. I assume others may feel the same way about this.

Anyhow, thanks also to Chris for RED Relay, which made all this possible to spread for now (we thought its a better place than our own website, as its a place watched more often from RED users for now, to whom this material was aimed this time).

Thanks and heads up all around!

Axel
 
Hi Axel,
I'll stop my RED Footage mirror .......now! It was just a favor for some of us.

Cheers,
 
Hi Axel,
I'll stop my RED Footage mirror .......now! It was just a favor for some of us.

Cheers,

Claus,

don't get me wrong!

Ask people, and I am sure you'll quickly will have footage to share :) but ask...

Axel
 
Hi,

sorry for answering so late. I've already seen the positive, and well, it looks like it was never something else than film. All the color and the depth is great, it is way better than what I am used to when customers shot on HD.

Great news!!! Was it 4K DPX transferred, or 2K?
 
Axel,

I've offered this SERVICE since the beginning of RED footage early September because some had asked for bandwidth. So from time to time I mirrored some footage and offered a flash version for those who only want to see a preview or simply don't want to download every clip.
 
Hi Claus,

great site. Just took a quick look, but very cool idea.
Also nice to have somebody (else) offering a relay service.
But re Axels question, I can only support his request!
(No need to shut down the service in my eyes, but let the people put up their footage on their own...)

Nonetheless, keep up the good work, however you intend to go on.
 
Hallo Axel !

Interessantes Projekt und schöner Plot ! Freue mich, dass wir nicht die einzigen "Verrückten" in old Germany sind, die auch mal andere Storys als die Üblichen angehen...schaut mal bei uns rein: www.real-buddy.com.

Bin gespannt, was sich weiter bei Euch tut !!

Gruss,

Frank
 
Hi Buddies,

I am pleased to release some more material from the now finished trailer. So here we go, 2K screenshots from the COLD STORAGE trailer:

http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 01.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 02.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 03.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 04.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 05.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 06.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 07.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 08.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 09.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 10.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 11.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 12.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 13.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 14.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 15.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 16.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 17.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 18.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 19.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 20.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 21.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 22.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 23.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 24.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 25.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 26.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 27.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 28.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 29.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 30.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 31.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 32.jpg
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/thumbs/Cold Storage 2K 33.jpg

http://www.magnamana.com/
http://www.starcrest.de/

http://www.cold-storage.de/

Looking forward to your comments!

Axel
 
2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer

2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer

2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer, part 1
 
2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer

2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer

2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer, part 2
 
2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer

2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer

2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer, part 3
 
2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer

2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer

2K Screenshots from the finished COLD STORAGE trailer, part 4
 
Hi,

finally the finished COLD STORAGE trailer, H.264 encoding with 75% quality setting.

Please be aware that Quicktime adds a very slight gamma shift that was not entirely intended :) but we went for this format for everybodies convenience!

For those who missed it, the HD and 2K versions are now online as well:

COLD STORAGE Trailer

1024x462y 24fps, ~103 MByte
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/films/Cold_Storage_Trailer_1024x426y24fps_H.264_75p.mov

1920x800y 24fps, ~326 MByte
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/films/Cold_Storage_Trailer_1920x800y24fps_H.264_75p.mov

2048x853y 24fps, ~438 MByte
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/films/Cold_Storage_Trailer_2048x853y24fps_H.264_75p.mov

http://www.magnamana.com/
http://www.starcrest.de/

http://www.cold-storage.de/

Again, looking forward to your comments!

Axel
 
And our musician and sound designer wants to know if you like the sound track...
 
Sorry, even if you write as big as you can, it´s less of meaning when not working. Recheck it please.

Grüße, Olli

Thanks Olli,

% was an unsupported character in the file name. Changed and should work now.

If you have any other comments, feel free...


Axel
 
Hi,

finally the finished COLD STORAGE trailer, here in its 1K version, roughly 106 MBytes, H.264 encoding with 75% quality setting.

Please be aware that Quicktime adds a slight gamma shift that was not entirely intended :) but we went for this format for everybodies convenience!

http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0110/films/Cold_Storage_Trailer_1024x426y24fps_H.264_75p.mov

http://www.magnamana.com/
http://www.starcrest.de/

http://www.cold-storage.de/

Again, looking forward to your comments!

Axel

If you don't know to deal with QT technology for trailers and do not have strong QT support in Germany call for example one of the vendors in USA, LA to do it for you :) .

Also you should know this that QT H.264 is the highest and the best movie trailer standard in the world.

Just to be clear about it :) .
 
Sanjin,

what shall I say?

As long as apple manages it that we can view the very same file in the very same build of Quicktime in at least 3 different "looks" without changing the file, but the method it got opened...

WMVs never showed that issue. We already consider telling people to use the latest WMV player plugin for Apple to play them instead :)

The good point is: The brighter it is, the more details can be seen (don't let this be read by the colorists...).

SMILE,

Axel
 
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