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Axel Mertes
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I do wish to post here on behalf of RedRelay as I feel that some things were misspoken on the post by Axel.
We don't have space constraints on RR. What we do want is standardization. And, as QuickTime is the current leader in all aspects of showing RED footage online thus far, it is the format we choose to support.
What we are looking for is consistency. If all can vote on a standard format to release videos in that is not QuickTime that proves to be ultimately more efficient at displaying correct values then we will take that into consideration. But, seeing as how most of the people viewing these clips are Mac folk, most of the people are editing FCP, and all of the footage that has not been R3D at this point has been QuickTime, we feel the need to keep with that unless something else comes along that people are willing (on a wide scale) to use instead of QuickTime.
If you TRULY believe your footage is best viewed in another format, let us know! But, Axel posted 3 different formats which, for the sake of consistency, we believe, is not the best way to go.
Axel, if you feel that one format is better than QT, the please, feel free to put it online, but posting three major formats is, in our opinion, not in the best interest for us or the RR community.
Hi Chris,
I understand your point about Quicktime, but as some pointed out - not everybody has Quicktime on his systems nor is nurd enough to install it. And I understood RED Relay not only as exchange platform for RED ONE owners (hey, those don't need that after all, they can create footage their own...). I understood it to be interesting for 2 parties:
1. Those who ordered a RED and still don't have it.
2. Those who do not own or will not own a RED, but aim to use one or let use one in productions.
I don't argue on WMV and DIVX, both somehow platform bound formats too, still.
After re-thinking the situation I have to clearly underline that Claus is completely right with the choice of Flash H.264 codec for simple reasons:
1. You don't need to install Quicktime!
2. It performs install - if required - from the website itself, way easier for non-nurds. Very transparent.
3. I've yet to see gamma shifts from the Flash player (THAT counts).
But I need to send one info into Claus direction:
Its nice that you put in that info. And surely it wasn't easy task to download all that footage and then transcode to the new codec and finally publish it.
BUT
When I published material from our movie teaser on any websites in the Internet, I did so on behalf of my company and related people, having direct access to the right owners of all this and doing it in their best interest.
You have essentially no right to process this material any further, nor to publish it without any written allowance to do so! As long as we make the decision where to upload this material, its up to us and therefor under control. If poeple start to do what they want with copying and spreading the data, its clear it gets out of control.
That being said I'd say thanks for pointing us to Flash H.264 codec and for your clearly honest aims. I encourage you to ask people for allowance BEFORE copying their movies. I assume others may feel the same way about this.
Anyhow, thanks also to Chris for RED Relay, which made all this possible to spread for now (we thought its a better place than our own website, as its a place watched more often from RED users for now, to whom this material was aimed this time).
Thanks and heads up all around!
Axel