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Red One - Carbon Fibre - Upgrade.

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Carbon Fiber Red Ones will not be for sale from us.. and we definitely would not certify a 3rd party to create one.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
But they won't. They have said they won't. Cameras are not eligible for upgrades (like the Mysterium-X sensor) if the owner has compromised the camera in any way that would void the warranty, whether the camera is in warranty or not. Even if the owner pays "full price" for the upgrade.
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so sanjin will not get a MX sensor? this would be sad, i would like to see some sanjin quick and dirty tests
 
I have a question: If the casing was removed how much would the guts weigh?



Off-topic a bit, what are those pieces of ceramic inside the camera for?
 
Given Jarred's response above and the implications of modifying a RED One camera in this way, I really can't believe people are actually considering this.

All this to save ~2lbs/1kg. The aluminum housing of a RED One does not weigh very much to begin with.

Whatever...
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Given Jarred's response above and the implications of modifying a RED One camera in this way, I really can't believe people are actually considering this.

All this to save ~2lbs/1kg. The aluminum housing of a RED One does not weigh very much to begin with.

Whatever...
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Film cameras have been modified for decades if the application desired it. If for any reason what soever someone needs to pimp his red digital camera to make his work easier, I think he should do it. People do it with our ActionCams all the time. But of course all warrantee is lost at some point. Never the less, if some one has to modified one of our products and needs something repaired after that, we don't refuse to do what we can, thats simply good customer service. But the repair is then no longer on warrantee.

But to get this straight, if you modify your RED one, you loose your warrantee - that makes perfect sense.
 
I really can't believe people are actually considering this.

All this to save ~2lbs/1kg. The aluminum housing of a RED One does not weigh very much to begin with.
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Well, Red has not made anything that could be called light weight. Whats up with that giant steel plate in their battery bracket? The CF module housing is ridiculously heavy for what it does. 2 pounds is a ton of weight. I would be more interested a rehousing to get some of the stuff in better places, make the camera a little more ergonomic, and the weight would be an added bonus. Sort of like what Clairmont did with the f900s.
Those of us that do steadicam consider 2 pounds a lot of weight. I guess it's not going to happen any time soon, but it would be nice if they would support improvements to the body.

Nick
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Given Jarred's response above and the implications of modifying a RED One camera in this way, I really can't believe people are actually considering this.

All this to save ~2lbs/1kg. The aluminum housing of a RED One does not weigh very much to begin with.

Whatever...
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Arr OK Jeff, I think its fine to consider modifying the RedOne, no reason to be rude about it.

David Fincher's crew asked for it no?

But if Red is not good with it, that's cool/fine. We can only ask.


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thx
Ash
 
Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude about it, was not my intention.

Like I said, I understand wanting to trim weight, but modifying your RED One impacts not only any remaining warranty, but future upgrades as well.

I do understand why people would want to do this. And I do agree with Brian's comment about film cameras being modified. Only catch here is that the RED One is hardly a film camera.

A rental house like Clairmont reconfiguring F900s is somewhat similar to this. Of course it destroys any chance of warranty and support from Sony, but Clairmont is there to support those cameras for their customers. I suppose the same could be done for the RED One. But looking at it from an independent RED One owner perspective, a little bit of weight savings gained vs. other potential problems that could be introduced with the carbon shell remains to be seen. And if it eliminates the camera from future upgrade eligibility, then that right there is a pretty strong argument against it, unless updating to a Monstro sensor and possibly other new internals in the future is of no interest to you. ...Just sayin'
 
If you are out of warranty... you can do anything you want to a RED ONE. But if Humpty-Dumpty falls off the wall, we'll charge you to put him back together.

Jim
 
Vladimir Eugene said:
I'd be interested in a Carbon Fiber RED similar to the one supplied for "Social Network"
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Wait a sec, Red themselves actually made a Red body made out of carbon fiber?? Are there pictures of this?
 
Seems like the thing to do is upgrade your Red to MX and then hot-rod that, since its hard for me to imagine that much more upgrading will be done to a legacy camera.

People have been customizing all kinds of cameras for years for special use. including various aftermarket enhancements. Moreover, if Red (who has already done this) shared the basic information, problems they solved and so on, it could probably be done pretty well, and early design flaws on the original Red body fixed or improved upon. I think it really just needs somebody with a Red to burn (as it were) and the skills to do it. But I don't know if an upgraded hot-rodded Red One would really be any better than an Epic.
 
Can I ask for some clarification.

If you are planning to trade in the camera at Stage 3, then, no, I assume it's not a good idea to hot rod that shit, because they might not take it in.

But.... I am assuming that once the MX upgrade is done to your R1, and if you are planning to "mark it off" at Stage 2 for an Epic X and keep it, you can basically do whatever the hell you want with your upgraded R1, right? Is this true? This assumes, of course, that the upgraded R1 is out of warranty.

BTW, will any new type of warranty kick in once the MX upgrade is done?
 
If you are out of warranty... you can do anything you want to a RED ONE. But if Humpty-Dumpty falls off the wall, we'll charge you to put him back together.

Jim
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Ok, Just so we are clear, are you saying that if one of my cameras is out of warranty, and I want to take some body pieces and mill them out to be lighter, or maybe make some cut out panels to be covered with carbon fiber, then I can still get a mysterium x chip upgrade? I think it would be asking a bit much to still ask for the epic upgrade if I modify the camera, but that's OK I have 2 ;-)

Thanks,

Nick
 
I think it will take some finacial incentive, possibly a production where the camera has to be made lighter for whatever reason and then people with the know how will just get the job done. If you have gone through every other piece that is on your camera and made it as light as it can be then the camera is the last place.

This isn't a comparison but only a point of interest of what can be done when turning an old bike into a racing bike. In racing 300g is a truckload.

I know you can't compare the two but I just love the look of this.

Kind of thinking outside the box.

Someone with the ingenuity, equipment and maybe a trashed Red One......... a starting place.......
 

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Holy Hell, I can't believe in the true nature of passing along information that neither Jannard or Jerrod mentioned that another company had made successfully carbon fiber bodies for the Red One. Guys don't tell me you didn't here the news. I suspect news like this would travel fast to the ears of the Gran PooBah.

Am I ranting, maybe a bit. I like to see information shared.

http://www.dgaquarterly.org/BACKISSUES/Winter2010/TechnologyLightsActionCamera.aspx
 
how much lighter would Carbon Fibre be? Also durability would be another question (not saying I'd chuck my RED One over a rock cliff on a bungee cord but still...)
 
You're right, from that article Shawn

"But Fincher is effusive in his praise for RED, noting that when his crew needed to reduce the size and weight of the ONE for a scene in The Social Network, within a three-day span the company delivered not one, but two lighter, smaller versions made out of carbon fiber."
 
"In terms of their most basic technology, the RED and the Genesis are similar in that they both employ a single charge-coupled device (CCD) imaging chip that is the same width as a 35 mm film frame. Unlike digital cameras from companies rooted in broadcast television that use three CCD imaging systems that are 2/3-inch wide, the single-chip Genesis and RED ONE are compatible with most standard spherical film lenses."

mhh not very well researched
 
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