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Red one and wildlife cinematography thread?

arri plate, ET EVF mount

arri plate, ET EVF mount

Gibby said:
The rest of the setup includes: RED EVF, ET EVF mount with sliding adjustment, RED Drive, ET ARRI plate (15mm), 15mm rods, ET ARRI V plate, Miller Arrow 55 tripod. The other photo is a closer look at the same rig in action on one of my California coast shoots.
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Thanks for all this valuable input. Three questions : what's the arri plate for ? Need it order to get the whole set up in balance, with a heavy, long lens ? If the case, do you see some other solution for that purpose (basic production pack ? cheese plate ? or whatever you may suggest) ? About the ET EVF mount : do you find it difficult to adjust the evf using the red arm ?
 
„swap pack” solution and batteries??

„swap pack” solution and batteries??

Hi there,
I need some advice from experienced wildlife shooters / reduseres…

I’m looking for a „swap pack” solution, so that I can run the camera for a long time without rebooting… Doing so, I will need a lot of batteries. Are there good and cheep alternatives to the RED bricks, or would you go with those?

Sitting here in Europe I also thought it would be also a good idea to buy Accessories (if they are available) here in Europe, in order to get a quick and easy support. What do you think?
Thanks
 
Lauri Kettunen said:
Decided to stick on the 2:1 format once ran into "codec error" problems with the 16:9 mode. When shooting with wide angle lenses, small apertures, and if the image involves a lot of details, the codec fails for some reason in 16:9 mode. Never had the same problem with 2:1 format.

What comes to Denis' question of experiences, I would sum up Red One in wildlife filming as follows:

Pro
-Excellent image quality
-Versatile system that can be adapted and modified to many needs
-4 audio channels
-High speed modes

Con (as now with build 15)
-Weigth
-Power consumption
-Bit long booting up time
-Slightly instable system implying the camera may occasionally be whimsical like all computers.

However, as all the specs may change, the new builds may include a sleep mode, and in addition, the slight instability may disappear with software updates.
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Love my RED for wildlife ... and my comments are similar to above :

Pros :
- quality, but one has to hit the sweet spot (and with B16 it's only going to get better)
- very adaptable
- 2k or 3k high speed recording is fab

Cons :
- heavy (I guess I'm not as fit as Gibby !!!)
- boot up time (to avoid the 'wait', got into the habit of rigging all the ancillaries while the camera boots)
- codec errors in 4k 16:9 ... have had to settle for 4k 2:1 at the moment
- would be VERY nice to have a pre-recorded buffer implemented (PLEASE PLEASE)

Not yet received my EVF ... operating with just the RED LCD has been very very hard in the meantime ;-(
Many of the cons are being worked on by RED, the fitness is down to me; I've never really heard if the pre-recorded buffer is on the wish list ???

Not done any long lens work ... my Canon glass awaits Birger getting their act together.

Cheers
 
h2opixels said:
I've never really heard if the pre-recorded buffer is on the wish list ???
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Some time ago Jarred said the call for the recording buffer is heard by the development team. So, I guess at some point such a feature should be available.

Burger, I would not recommend to get a simple swap pack. The problem is, when you have two batteries in parallel connection the batteries will charge each other without any control. As a result the batteries will get ruined faster than when used properly.

To see what I mean, read the manual of the charger, which explains how the charger adjusts the current at different stages of the charging process. In a parallel connection of the batteries, there's no control on the current charging the battery with less energy. And this is what may shorten the life time of the batteries. I'm afraid, there's no simple electrical connection around this problem.

In general, Li-batteries are bit like food. Whether they are used or not, they will get slowly ruined. Usually, if Li-batteries are not used for a long period, it is better to put them in a refrigerator as the chemical reactions slow down in cold. However, don't know the details of the RED batteries. In fact, it would be useful and interesting to hear what Red can say of the life span and storage of their batteries.
 
Lauri Kettunen said:
Burger, I would not recommend to get a simple swap pack. The problem is, when you have two batteries in parallel connection the batteries will charge each other without any control. As a result the batteries will get ruined faster than when used properly.
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Hi Lauri, concerning the „Swap pack“ solution I got in on other thread this hint:

Mick van Rossum said:
The secret of this, and made by an audio company here in holland (http://www.noyzboyz.nl/) is that they take out the special magnet which is in the Red battery plates that will dispay the info on the battery. They than take a better and bigger battery plate (Hawkwoods) and combine this with a regulator and a special plug which will take over power when another powersource is connected. You then take another batteryplate or powersource with a full battery attached, connect it, take of the empty battery, drop in the new one, and disconnect the "switch" batteryplate. Voila, the whole day shooting without rebooting.....
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But what do you think about the RED bricks? Has anybody good alternatives in use?
 
This has been a fantastic thread. Thanks to all for the great contributions. I am a new RED user, and will be shooting in Africa very soon. I am normally a still photographer, and jumping into the world of video is like dropping into a whole different world. Video is different enough, and add RED into the mix and you have a different planet. The good thing is that I have never gotten used to a workflow, so it is all new to me.

I would love to see this thread continue for selfish reasons.......
 
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