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Red Helium Sensor being used to film "Stranger Things" season 2

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Dan Kanes

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Hey all!

Went to a screening of Stranger Things Season 1 Episode 1 in the Sherry Lansing theatre at Paramount Pictures hosted by Netflix and local 600. Always been a fan of the show, and seeing it on the big screen really blew me away, so much to drink in both in sight and sound, in an awesome theatre. Noticed so many things I had missed on my 65" TV at home.

DP Tim Ives was in attendance along with the Showrunners (Duffer Bros.) and several members of the production design and art team.

Mr. Ives sumptuous lighting and camera movement from season 1 was filmed with the Dragon Sensor on Leica Primes (can't remember if Summilux or Summicron - I think he said Summilux).

Someone in attendance asked about season 2, and I was pleased to hear they had chosen the Helium Sensor this year - he said filming 8K for a 6K extraction (supersampled to 4K delivery).

Thought everyone might like to hear about this - can't wait to see what unfolds !
 
That is incredibly suitable for this show in particular. Gotta get them the right NDs and good to go!
 
RED cameras have been TV-ready for a while, now. It's great to see them put to good use. REDs have been used in countless movies and ads, but I think that extra vindication comes from TV productions. So, well done RED.

I think that eventually, TV productions with medium to high budgets will be asking themselves if there is any point using anything else.
 
This so so cool to hear about. Season one was Summilux I am almost certain.
 
It was the Summilux for the show. Absolutely love the look and the lighting. I'm incredibly enamored with my summicrons on helium, can't wait to see what he does for season 2!
 
Joel Voelker said:
I'm incredibly enamored with my summicrons on helium, can't wait to see what he does for season 2!
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It'll be interesting if they go Helium on the next season of Mr Robot, they shoot on summicron-c. My personal favorite lenses.
 
Dan Kanes said:
Someone in attendance asked about season 2, and I was pleased to hear they had chosen the Helium Sensor this year - he said filming 8K for a 6K extraction (supersampled to 4K delivery).
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Supersampled?
 
Dan Kanes said:
Capture at 6K, oversampled down to 4K (downsampling) ? (6K being within the frame guides of an open gate 8K)

did I make up the Supersampled word? hmmm... I thought I've heard that somewhere. Even if I made it up, I like the ring to it.
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Nope, it's a thing and it's a fun thing at that especially if shooting HFR and going to normal at speed frame rates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersampling

In the case of this workflow however, it's merely good old fashioned Oversampling which is common place in many RED workflows. Very nice to hear of the 8K-ness though. I think people will be impressed at what you can squeeze out of it.
 
Patrick Tresch said:
So they shot 6k on the Helium? = bigger depth of field.
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I'm guessing they use lenses not compatible with the full sensor as well as stabalizing and reframing in post with some headroom. I do however think that 7K extract is closer to "normal" s35mm
 
They're recording the whole 8K, but their frame lines are drawn for 6K. I think movies like Spider-Man did this too (the one done on epic MX - but at 5K) this kind of thing was common practice in film days so you'd be able to see the boom mic or other things you don't want in frame, or for slight reframes or vfx stuff like the frame getting shaken by an explosion.
 
Christoffer Glans said:
I'm guessing they use lenses not compatible with the full sensor as well as stabalizing and reframing in post with some headroom. I do however think that 7K extract is closer to "normal" s35mm
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That would be about right. The Helium is about 30mm x 16mm. (30mm/8K)*7K = ~26mm. S35 is a bit under 25mm, so 6K is more like it. (30mm/8K)*6K = ~24mm.
 
Karim D. Ghantous said:
RED cameras have been TV-ready for a while, now. It's great to see them put to good use. REDs have been used in countless movies and ads, but I think that extra vindication comes from TV productions. So, well done RED.

I think that eventually, TV productions with medium to high budgets will be asking themselves if there is any point using anything else.
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Outside of 4K Netflix, there aren't many TV shows that use Red. Most prefer Arri.
 
Milano Questa said:
Outside of 4K Netflix, there aren't many TV shows that use Red. Most prefer Arri.
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I think most Amazon originals shoot Red as well. Man On High Castle and Bosch come to mind. I suppose any studio requiering a 4k finish right now. Once TV networks jump on board with 4k broadcasting I'm sure much of TV will go Red.
 
Arri new sensor is coming this year rumors say
 
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