RED GUNNER VS CLUTCH

[Guillaume Tremblay]

Hello folks, I'm in Hawaii right now visiting a producer. Wow so much warmer than Quebec!!! It's always the summer there! Sorry, I'm out of the main subject. I was wondering what is your experience with the gunner versus the clutch. I've seen a video post on TONACI and I've been to RED in LA and there seems to be difficult to have rails+FF+MATTEBOX with the gunner. + it seems to me that it's hard to pull focus and adjust exposure directly on the lens when you have the bomb EVF on the way...

Please tell me your opinion.

Regards,

Guillaume

 

[Trevor Meeks]

I haven't used the gunner but I absolutely love the clutch. Best shoulder rig I've ever used. It's very comfortable when configured properly, and my EVF sits out of the way of the lens and at the perfect height. Now granted, i don't have my camera super far back, but once the longer cables and an auxiliary mounting plate come from viewfactor, I'll be able to snap the AB-APU to the rear pad of THE CLUTCH for a little extra counter-balance. For the most part though, this thing is super comfy and I experience virtually no fatigue when shooting handheld - something I've never experienced before with any shoulder rig.

 

[Edward Blythe]

The Clutch is a fantastic piece of kit - big fan

Also haven't seen The Gunner....

 

[Andy White]

I'm looking at both systems at the moment too.

The Clutch seems great, but my concern is the off-centre (or off centre of the shoulder) positioning - it looks like it'll be front heavy unless counter balanced by batteries.

The Gunner seems more like a take on the more traditional shoulder mounted system.

Mmm - we really need someone who has both to do a compare/contrast

 

[Trevor Meeks]

Andy, do a forum search... there's a big thread about the clutch.

What exactly do you mean about off-center (of the shoulder) positioning? Not sure what you mean by that... The clutch is the only shoulder rig I've ever used that doesn't put excessive weight on the top of the shoulder, and doesn't put a lot of weight in your hands... it's called the CLUTCH for a reason

 

[Andy White]

Trevor - already been following the Clutch for a while (back when Ketch was posting last summer etc)

What I mean (and this is by looking at images and not using one!) is that it seems to sit away from/lower than the shoulder and (by means of the support pads) distribute the weight of the camera... I've used something similar with a Shape rig, but that had a stabilizer arm that came off the main rig and into a belt pouch.

Probably have to try and test one to see

BTW - your rig pic looks like it's a miniature robot that's about to crawl away... most Clutch pix I've seen are like this... maybe RED has a plan for world domination (with the secret AI chip that ships with all RED products) - LOL.

 

[Trevor Meeks]

Haha yeah I pulled it out of the box and I swear it looked like a transformer. I'll take a pic of it folded up... thing looks like it's about to come alive.

I don't notice that the clutch sits any differently on top of the shoulder than any other rig. Still not quite understanding why you're under that impression but I agree, it would be a good idea to test one out. Numerous users can't be wrong, eh?

 

[Gavin Greenwalt]

What he's referring to is one of the reasons I haven't gone clutch in that the center of balance seems to be about 6-8" in front of your shoulder instead of over your shoulder. I feel like I would always be holding it up instead of letting it balance on my shoulder.

 

[Mark Phelan]

What he's referring to is one of the reasons I haven't gone clutch in that the center of balance seems to be about 6-8" in front of your shoulder instead of over your shoulder. I feel like I would always be holding it up instead of letting it balance on my shoulder.

I'm sure that the Clutch is designed to be used with the various modules, whenever they arrive, for better balance. Until then, it will be front-heavy. But honestly, it doesn't seem front-heavy on my shoulder, probably because the three pads distribute the weight fore and aft versus a lighter, more compact design like the Gunner. I would think one could say the same thing about the Gunner design, but I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know.

 

[Björn Benckert]

The clutch with the camera back mounted is superb. Beats anything. Then when using small lenses and having the quad bat pack then having it front mounted will be even better.
Here it's back mounted with a master prime and double batteries...

 

[Björn Benckert]

here is another config of the clutch with original quick plate on the shoulder... it's sick nice to have the camera mounted to your head like this it gives a perfect "POV" feel to the camera moves. It's like the camera is mounted on your spine. Could have it there for a day straight no problem.

http://www.syndicate.se/Files/~usr/film/EPIC POV-CAM.mov

 

[Mark Toia]

The clutch with the camera back mounted is superb. Beats anything. Then when using small lenses and having the quad bat pack then having it front mounted will be even better.
Here it's back mounted with a master prime and double batteries...

Sweet..