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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Red & Dslr...

I'm a little tired to work with one eye and read this forum with the other eye...

It feels like a Super 3D workspace :) One eye to the left, one eye to the right.

Jim, You're the best marketing guy i've ever seen. ever.
 
Tresch said:
It would also be interesting to see a comparison with Nikon D300 wich has nearly the same camera aperture as RED ONE.

Pat
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It would be interesting if RED is under consideration as a stills camera. Then it should be carefully matched up against every DSLR out there. But I don't think that is the point. The point is that RED can be confused with a professional DSLR and RED shoots 24fps (actually 30fps) to Compact Flash cards and can make movies. I do not expect RED to win every aspect of a shootout against every DSLR on the market. But I am convinced that you have to look pretty hard to point to any deficiency in comparison with the best out there.

Jim
 
Antoine Fabi said:
Jim, You're the best marketing guy i've ever seen. ever.
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Marketing is manufactured. Enthusiasm is real. I'm just having too much fun with this whole program.
Jim
 
I want that ColorChart for my Living Room that thing is huge!

B16 is pulling marks for cleanliness thats for sure.
 
Tresch said:
Why 2:1 format with build 16????

Pat
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Have you ever heard about Univisium format?

"MM: What film format was chosen to produce Caravaggio?

VS: We used the Univisium system, which is 35mm film with three perforations per frame.
The cameras were modified to allow us to compose images with a 2:1 aspect ratio.
That was important, because there were plans to release both television and cinema versions of Caravaggio.
I believe that it is important for audiences to experience films the way they are intended to be seen whether
it is seen on a cinema screen or on television. (Editor’s note: Storaro invented the Univisium system during the 1980s,
when the FCC was first considering standards for
high-definition television displays in the U.S., and similar discussions were going on in other countries.)"

Quote from "Vittorio Storaro Paints With His Camera" by Bob Fisher.

It's about the brand new universal movie format.
 
I think a better question is which one do you like better?

Just quickly looking via the web browser I have to go for the bottom one by a nose. It seems to have a more subtle roll off into the whites. If you look at the fourth column of pastel color chips I think the bottom camera does a better job of showing their slight differentiations. Look at the intensity of the yellow paint tube of the top camera over the more subtle yellow on the bottom camera. Top seems oversaturated to me. A sign over lower latitude?

But they both look good.
 
Now when I look at the 1'st image it can almost go for a D3 Nikon shoot taken with high iso... that says alot.. And im pretty sure its from the RED. Gives me the creeps.

PS: Nikon D3 is a full frame s35 size chip camera.
 
Can we add voting to this thread or create the other post to vote on this.
I am curious how voting will do.

1) Top is Canon
2) Top is RED

I presume that we do not have here B16 versus B15
 
I imagine the second is Red because it would have a low pass filter. and moire may be more significant in moving images. canon would likely be more obsessed with sharpness. Good news is -- Red is still more sharp than sharp enough.
 
Doc Holliday said:
I imagine the second is Red because it would have a low pass filter. and moire may be more significant in moving images. canon would likely be more obsessed with sharpness. Good news is -- Red is still more sharp than sharp enough.
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The second image has more obvious artificial sharpening added though. Check the edges of the text "Digital ColorChecker."
 
I've made some months ago a similar test...
Was REDONE B14 against Canon EOS (1D).
The difference was really noticeable for an expert.

In this case, what can I say?

Seems incredible. Really, I'm not sure about which is which.
 
I know Jim seems to be hinting that A is the Red but if he hadn't said that my gut would be telling me B is the Red (granted i've only seen stills/samples online and never got to play with one myself). So against all odds i will vote
A) Canon
B) Red
...and hope to be wrong :)
 
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