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Red & Dslr...

I think the first is Red and the second is Cannon based on color rendition

Just look at both pictures at 200% zoom.
You will see hairs stuck to the color squares on the top picture.
On the bottom one you can hardly recognize that there is something in the same place.

Both pictures are focused on the chart as Jim said.
 
we all said red was the bottom and Jim said look again, as if we were wrong..... If its the top one id be very happy as i think its much sharper, as is the blue channel. the blue channel in the bottom image is very blurry and lacks detail, which is why my first instinct said it was red.
 
Ahhh..

So after looking at this again and reading through everyone's opinions, I am thoroughly confused.

Jim, I think your point has been made ;)
 
If I had to guess, I'd say the second one is RED. The 'softer' more desaturated look makes me think so.

But the truth is, I really don't know.
Both look great, and the main difference is a grading thing. You could have graded the second one to look much more similar to the first one with just some small RGB curve and saturation adjustments.

Nils.
 
(I haven't read all the thread, because of all the spoilers. :) )


The Force tells me that the first one is RED...

Because of the feeling...

***

Lol,.. good reason, eh? :)
 
If the top picture is Red I'll eat my underpants... The bottom one looks a little mushy in the blue channel (compression artifacts in my eyes)..

I'd love to eat my underpants though if the top is really red footage :)
 
It's not obvious at all, due to the numerous claims of it being "obvious" both ways.

I'll just say that I like the colour rendition and focus of the top picture better. I would also wager that the top picture is Red, as I find the arguments more convincing.
 
I'm about as technical as a watermelon. I just like the first image better based upon feel; colour, clarity AND saturation. Nothing has been altered, I imagine. Put RED on the pedestal it deserves. The RED is number one, of course! (And don't mind my spelling, I'm Canadian).
 
karapetkov,
Geez, did it take me ten minutes to finally post my thoughts? Anyway, we had the same (hopeful) "feeling", and the debate rages on....
 
Bottom picture has an overcompensated sharpness.
Very visible on the top of the chart(Digital Color Checker), inside the white letter edges(ringing).
That makes me strongly believe the top is RED.

cheers,
hdnow
 
Based on noise characteristics the bottom image is Red.
 
karapetkov,
Geez, did it take me ten minutes to finally post my thoughts? Anyway, we had the same (hopeful) "feeling", and the debate rages on....


I ain't very technical either, but I'm slowly turning into a digital cinema geek, reading these forums.

We're yet to see if our hunch was right.
 
It's very interesting reading the "back and forth" in this thread. I have both a MKIII and a RED One here, so I know what they both look like. I know intimately what a RED looks like.

It's interesting reading the scrutiny and the differences you all see (when you look really closely).

A very interesting thread.

Graeme
 
There is something fishy going on.... When some said it was the bottom, Jim said "look again". That gave me a hard on! Now, I believe it's the bottom because of the color rendition.

Please say I'm wrong!
 
c'mon Jim - just give us the answer. if it's the red that looks better and sharper you have exceeded anything I thought you could do with this beast!
 
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