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red body heat nead advice!!:(

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hello to all

recantly i have done some camera test on red build 20 for a featre film.

we went out to the desert the temprture outside was around 40- 43 c'.

after 25 min apperd a temp warning on the control panel, 20 mints later the rec indcator start flashing and a " body hot" message appered.

the fan mode was on "hot"', we recorded into red 320 gb hard disk and we had shade over the camera.

i would love to get your advice on how to cool down the camera!!!!????? (im planing on having a fan to cool it down too) do you think the problem may be conected to the build number ? , if i switch to cf cards should it be more cooler maybe??

hope you guyes can help
thanks

roy
 
That's hot and I've done it with RED before. Keep the camera shaded or drape a white towel or something over it to keep direct sunlight off. That seems to help the most. Ice packs or cold packs can help too if it's still overheating, but watch out for condensation. I have only used ice packs on my RED once and as a precautionary measure. It was 108F (42C) and I didn't have adequate shade for the camera. Camera temp said it was OK all day long, but we went through a bunch of ice packs. The camera will cool itself if allowed to rest (not recording) with the fan running. Don't just turn the camera off. The length of your recording will affect how fast it heats up.
 
hi jeff
thank you so much for the quick info

would you think that if ill use cf cards will help to keep it a bit cooler?

if anyone else have more tips i will be more then happy:)

roy
 
I don't think shooting CF will have any effect on camera temperature. I haven't noticed any such effects. Don't see why it would make a difference other than the drive pulling more power through the camera. May be worth testing...
 
I would think the Opposite, CF Cards would Heat up the Camera Faster than the Drive would, Only because they are attached directly to the Body instead of By a Cable.

I noticed Cards not mounting on the camera after extreme Heat 107ºF, then sundown to an Extreme temperature change. Now I cant replicate the problem. Heat does very strange things even to Electronics in a Film Camera.
 
The fan setting can sometimes change after a camera reboot. Make sure they are correct, and change-change-back to make sure they are correct.
 
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the fan d was cked on hot all the time (chechked it all the time) about the length of the takes -- there will be long ones and short its a movie...

roy
 
Keep it cool any way you can including Ice packs. If you have a "spot cooler"
keep the output on the camera.

Wrap the top of the camera in reflective aluminum foil to reflect the sun or stay under an umbrella.
 
You can also blow a mini fan into the camera intake. I think the max temp for the Red is 106 Farenheit (41 Celsius). So unfortunately I think you are outside of the manufacturers specs. You could also try shooting early in the morning ;)

IBloom
 
thank you all so much we will shot in early sep so hopefully the weather will be less hot

im going out soon to check a diffrent red to see how she will respond

we are about to shot a whole 4 days in the desert so early morning wont be effactive

can i get a replay fro the red company ? how would they recmond handling it in the desert?
 
Weve shot in conditions similar to what youre talking about, and then some.
Just make sure to have some shade over the body and that the camera is out of the sun and ideally into a cooler environment, like an A/C'd car whenever possible.

You can always try gel packs, or sticking a half empty bottle of water under the top handle if you feel like it.

Thought it might be worth mentioning that as much as you may want to cover up any ports youre not using, like the usb, hdmi or unused audio, heat does escape through them, so covering them up will work against you.
 
Roy, if you are specifically looking for a reply from RED, the best avenue is to file a support ticket on www.red.com/contact_us . I can say that most of the comments posted here are very valid (shade, gel packs, etc).

BC
 
Florian Stadler said:
The best solution I've seen are those headache compression packs filled with ice and a fabric cover to fight condensation.
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great, i'll pick some up...almost blew it today in the friggin' heat with that poor red. i thought we fried the evf...phew. never gonna do that again.
 
It also gets really hot here in the Philippines so before we start shooting I put the gel pack in an ice box. I also use disposable gel packs that are treated with some kind of menthol based material, I just peel off one side and stick on to the top of the camera. It's cool but not as cold as the ice packs but there's no condensation to worry about and it also absorbs the heat from the camera but when it really gets hot I break out the silicon gel pack from the ice box.
 
It's only 30, you should be okay. If it gets up into the mid 30s, then the camera will probably roast and will need ice packs. I'd recommend keeping some ice packs on hand, just in case. Just lay them over the top and that will do it. Easy breezy.

We shot in heat like this a year ago, and needed ice packs all the time, but as long as we kept them on the camera, we had no issues.

Stephen
 
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