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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

RED ARMOR

Great! AppleCare is the only extended warranty I ever bought that was worthwhile - and this sounds the same. Hope a plan for Scarlet is in the works.

The only downside is that you've used up the name. When I first saw the thread I thought you had developed some physical armor, like a shock and weather-resistant jacket. Would still like to see that - especially for the Fixed.
 
Thank you for replying , Jarred. The money is a side issue. I will pay whatever you want me to if you can provide my EPIC-M buyer an extended warranty. Point noted about money. I will pay the money. I just want the opportunity to buy an extended warranty for my buyer, that is all. I'm trying not to be the one of the handful of people I've talked to that bought and sold EPIC-Ms and just don't bother registering that change with RED. That seems silly to me, but if that is what the option is, then that's what I'll do. I would prefer to pay you money for an extended warranty for a non-original owner and let you know accurately who owns that camera. That seems fair to me.
 
Thanks Chris... as I mentioned we are discussing some options. It won't be as lucrative as the original owner package, but should give piece of mind.
 
Lee Saxon said:
I've long held this belief, glad to hear I'm not the only one!
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Making a 1080p camera today is a walk in the park... anyone can do it... cheap. with off the shelf parts. Hell... my iPhone can even do 1080p now. For consumer devices on phones 1080p is great.

But anyone making and marketing a 1080p "professional" camera as "good enough" really should be embarrassed with themselves... and then charging an outrageous markup premium on top of that is even more backwards. At least I think so.
 
Jarred Land said:
Making a 1080p camera today is a walk in the park... anyone can do it... cheap. with off the shelf parts. Hell... my iPhone can even do 1080p now. For consumer devices on phones 1080p is great.

But anyone making and marketing a 1080p "professional" camera as "good enough" really should be embarrassed with themselves... and then charging an outrageous markup premium on top of that is even more backwards. At least I think so.
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+100 :-)
 
heh heh heh. In fact... in all reality... I wouldn't be surprised if all those other manufacturers actually do agree with 4K... they just don't want to tell you that yet, because they probably realized how hard it was to do and not maintain their 800% markups.

We have heard a lot of really funny marketing in the last year about how 1080p was all you needed, and that 4K was for "lunatics".


Here is an idea.. if any of you are in the market of buying an Alexa or any other 1080p " professional " camera, ask your salesman why 1080p is enough.

They probably have some really nice soundbites to tell you.

After they are done... this is what you should say:



" OK.. you convinced me." ..." 1080p is the future!!! Viva la 1080p!!"

" One last thing before I give you my money".

" Since you are so sure on 1080, can you put on this contract that if your company releases a 4K camera in the next 3 years you will refund 80% of today's purchase? thank you. "




I would love to hear how that goes.
 
Jarred Land said:
We have heard a lot of really funny marketing in the last year about how 1080p was all you needed, and that 4K was for "lunatics".
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I've been constantly befuddled regarding what most manufacturers even consider 1080p resolution as along their product line. Even to this day. I 100% agree about the mark ups and this nasty incremental upgrade nonsense. Technology has been moving faster, way faster, than what shooters have been given. The future is clearly 4k from a broadcast and theatrical stand point. We're a few years away from consumers purchasing affordable 4k LCDs in their homes though.

I can't fathom the behind closed doors conversations at a certain company regarding their best selling "camcorders" not even being from their video camera division. Somebody somewhere missed the memo years ago. It's not like they didn't know know what their market wants.
 
I think most people become convinced when you show them frame by frame footage from a MkII then hop in to Cine-X and show the Full Res 5K frame by frame. Their jaw is on the ground everytime never fails. I always get goosebumps.
 
Jarred Land said:
" Since you are so sure on 1080, can you put on this contract that if your company releases a 4K camera in the next 3 years you will refund 80% of today's purchase? thank you. "
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To your point: With all the guessing about Scarlet, Epic S etc - it really doesn't matter what they ship with for sensor; show me a company who does more to future proof a product line than RED. That is what I am buying first and foremost. Anyone can guess what the market needs today - the hard part is keeping the technical door open and rewarding your early adopters with economical upgrades. Market and consumer demands change (2K vs 5K) and can never be accurately predicted. R3D, product modular design and RED's attitude toward non-obsolesce are the difference between an expense and an investment and the best hedge against future changes.

With all the fawning over Jobs/Apple: how sweet would it be if I could pop open my Mac Tower and replace the motherboard and I/O only on the next generation? The aluminum case, power supply, drives etc are just fine - just need the newest go fast digi-parts.
 
I was always a little worried about the one year warranty. This RED ARMOR thing is very welcome. I will surely buy into piece of mind before the one-year warranty runs out. Thanks RED.
 
Josh Beadle said:
With all the fawning over Jobs/Apple: how sweet would it be if I could pop open my Mac Tower and replace the motherboard and I/O only on the next generation? The aluminum case, power supply, drives etc are just fine - just need the newest go fast digi-parts.
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That's called a PC ;) But, to that point, some people pay extra for Apple products because of the intangible experience that is worth the extra cost despite what markup Apple is making off of it. Obviously it's all highly subjective. You can quote tech specs all day but sometimes it's just about the tone of the image and a person's experience and that's worth the extra money for a lot of people.
 
Chris Smith said:
That's called a PC ;) But, to that point, some people pay extra for Apple products because of the intangible experience that is worth the extra cost despite what markup Apple is making off of it. Obviously it's all highly subjective. You can quote tech specs all day but sometimes it's just about the tone of the image and a person's experience and that's worth the extra money for a lot of people.
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Not sure a HP / Dell PC is any more upgradable by module than a Mac. They both subscribe to the mindless throw out the baby with the bath water engineering approach. . . . "intangible experience" blah blah Apple blah . . . if would be real fuckin tangible if I didn't have to spend $7K every time I need to upgrade a motherboard or I/O. In that regard, RED sets a design higher bar than St. Jobs
 
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