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RED and P+S Technik IMS

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alex trettenero

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Hello everyone.
some days ago i've been involved with my red one in a production in southern germany as a B camera.
we were supposed to use nikon mount lenses, so i put on my nikon mount.
With a big surprise i found that A camera had a PS Technik IMS mount, with a prototype of a custom designed Nikon professional F mount.
Useless to say ( for anyone who has been working with PS-made accessories), it was extremely well done and precise. it had a firmer mount for the lens, even with the follow focus pushing the lens from the side.
I thought that it was a really clever design, and the IMS was such a good idea, i immediately asked the PS Technik's representative ( who was attending the shooting) for an IMS to mount on my RED.
He said he would sent an IMS to me with pleasure, but he advised me that the warranty issues with RED where still not resolved, for whatever reason.
i did some digging in the reduser forum and i found tons of posts on the topic, but couldn't find what's the final word, if there's one.

can someone tell me how are the things set today?

P+S says the installation of the ims does not imply the warranty to be void and it should be considered an accessory like any other.
i think IMS is great, works beautifully and i'd really love to see it mounted on my red one.
PS Technik's guys are highly motivated on IMS and their work is as perfect as you could dream of it.
but losing my warranty is a big issue, especially for the Epic x trade in program.

Any word from red
 
Sanjin, looks like you are the IMS prophet...:biggrin:
how is your warranty at this point?
will you be getting the Epic X?
can I go with IMS safely?
 
It is important for many users that the IMS issue be resolved favourably. I dont have one yet but would like to go this route. Please could I respectfully ask Red and P&S to progress this matter.

Dave
 
IMS is a great system.

But with IMS on RED1 I'm a "looser" and have lost any free upgrade from RED.

For all upgrades (audio board and CF 16GB slot) I have to pay extra.

But it's fair and correct somehow because I took my own risk and voided RED warranty.

In a meantime I solved audio problem with my M-Audio Micro Track II recorder phantom power and line out.

16 GB cards I don't need because they are still expensive.
 
so it's true...
too bad, ayway.
i still don't get it.what is it that makes the warranty void?
 
alex trettenero said:
so it's true...
too bad, ayway.
i still don't get it.what is it that makes the warranty void?
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Actually behind the curtain of RED Headquarters nobody know what happened!!!???

A big theater secret as I could guess :clown2: .
 
IMHO the P+S affair has nothing to do with technical issues but involves much more obscure commercial reasons... but I´m a Red owner so I don´t want to be punished by Dad...
Anyway, I guess it may be possible to use the IMS discreetly (not Sanjin´s way), then reinstall the original Red mount and send the camera to service or trade it for a future Epic, as I don´t think the IMS would leave DNA traces or so... would it?
Guido
 
Guidofilippi said:
Anyway, I guess it may be possible to use the IMS discreetly (not Sanjin´s way), then reinstall the original Red mount and send the camera to service or trade it for a future Epic, as I don´t think the IMS would leave DNA traces or so... would it?
Guido
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Not so sure.

RED as a manufacture of RED1 camera by a certain "traces" (screws, i/cable, etc...) knows the best if RED PL mount was totally swapped before or not...

I wouldn't be so naive in this case...
 
Jarred, i remember that you said RED and IMS will go offline and talk about it in January. Is there any outcome from the discussion ?

A little update is good..

Thanks
 
I would really like to know if this will ever be worked out with Red and IMS....
as of right now it's the best mount system out there

Being that IMS put the time and effort out creating the specific Red version, I can't imagine them playing games with Red to stall this process....unless they're not too bright.

if this is not going to be done for commercial reasons...fine that's Reds decision.

but it would be nice to know if there is a real intention to get this going or not.
Please, either give us hope, or put us out of our misery
 
Sanjin Jukic said:
Not so sure.

RED as a manufacture of RED1 camera by a certain "traces" (screws, i/cable, etc...) knows the best if RED PL mount was totally swapped before or not...

I wouldn't be so naive in this case...
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Sure there will be "traces"... but everybody is officially allowed to freely change mounts: Red´s PL and Nikon, Long Valley´s Nikon, Birger´s or Alesniak´s Canon (if they already exist)... and those changes will leave the same "traces". Many Red owners change frequently between both Red mounts. No way to tell I guess.
Guido
 
mdharrington said:
I would really like to know if this will ever be worked out with Red and IMS....
as of right now it's the best mount system out there

Being that IMS put the time and effort out creating the specific Red version, I can't imagine them playing games with Red to stall this process....unless they're not too bright.

if this is not going to be done for commercial reasons...fine that's Reds decision.

but it would be nice to know if there is a real intention to get this going or not.
Please, either give us hope, or put us out of our misery
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I interpret it´s never going to be done and that´s Red´s final decision.
Guido
 
Guidofilippi said:
Sure there will be "traces"... but everybody is officially allowed to freely change mounts: Red´s PL and Nikon, Long Valley´s Nikon, Birger´s or Alesniak´s Canon (if they already exist)... and those changes will leave the same "traces". Many Red owners change frequently between both Red mounts. No way to tell I guess.
Guido
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With Long Valley´s Nikon F or Alesniak´s Canon EF you take off just a part of RED PL mount.

And with IMS and Birger you have to take off whole RED PL mount and that's a difference.
 
Guidofilippi said:
I interpret it´s never going to be done and that´s Red´s final decision.
Guido
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the fact that no one from RED has stepped in in this or previous threads on IMS ia telling me you're right, Guido.

Too bad, anyway.
 
I was talking to a P+S representative last week at the broadcastlive exhibition in London and he told me that a the conversation with RED has stopped completely. P+S tried several times to solve this matter and still are, but no word from RED. They didn't even wanted to see a P+S delegation willing to fly to the US to talk to the RED guys in person.

Go figure

Peter
 
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