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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Red and Lucasfilm?

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Indy won't be in 4k, regardless of George Lucas' wishes.

A BBC programme called The Culture Show over here in the UK recently did an hour long special on Spielberg where he spoke to Mark Kermode (UK Film Buff) about his life, career and future projects (of which Indy 4 was one he said he was really looking forward too).

He stated very clearly that when everyone else has switched to Digital, he will still shoot on Film - in fact he'd continue to shoot on film while the medium still existed. He said the smell of working in film, physically editing on a Moviola, was the same that Cecil B DeMille, Orson Welles et al had smelled when crafting masterpieces, was the "smell of our art" and that he'd likely be the last using it, but he wasn't going to change. He said Amblin would be at the forefront of new technology, but that he personally would never make the switch.

His closing comment on the subject was "it (film) has been good enough for audiences for a hundred years. Why wouldn't it be good enough anymore?" Trust me, if you'd seen how passionate he was on the subject you wouldn't have any doubts that he's sticking with film.

It doesn't matter what George Lucas thinks of new technology (and lets be honest, picture quality is hardly a concern of his), Spielberg will call the shots so Indy IV won't be digital.
 
Shocking! thanks for that info, Stephen.
 
I still honestly believe that should the RedOne produce 4k+ images with exposure latitude and dynamic range comparable to 35mm film, then Spielberg won't stop Lucas from having his way of at least... including a RedOne in his workflow... mind you, as part of a more comprehensive acquisition options that they obviously have at their disposal.
 
Spielberg has worked with the same editor, Michael Kahn, for all of his films. Kahn is still using KEM flatbeds and Moviolas by choice. There is no way that Spielberg will change his process in the near future. Any suggestion to the contrary is ill-informed.
 
Indy won't be in 4k, regardless of George Lucas' wishes.

A BBC programme called The Culture Show over here in the UK recently did an hour long special on Spielberg where he spoke to Mark Kermode (UK Film Buff) about his life, career and future projects (of which Indy 4 was one he said he was really looking forward too).

He stated very clearly that when everyone else has switched to Digital, he will still shoot on Film - in fact he'd continue to shoot on film while the medium still existed. He said the smell of working in film, physically editing on a Moviola, was the same that Cecil B DeMille, Orson Welles et al had smelled when crafting masterpieces, was the "smell of our art" and that he'd likely be the last using it, but he wasn't going to change. He said Amblin would be at the forefront of new technology, but that he personally would never make the switch.

His closing comment on the subject was "it (film) has been good enough for audiences for a hundred years. Why wouldn't it be good enough anymore?" Trust me, if you'd seen how passionate he was on the subject you wouldn't have any doubts that he's sticking with film.

It doesn't matter what George Lucas thinks of new technology (and lets be honest, picture quality is hardly a concern of his), Spielberg will call the shots so Indy IV won't be digital.

Yeah I saw that Stephen, and was going to write it up until you did. He said that everyone he works with would be using it but he'd be the last. There is simply no way he would use digital and he has so much power over any film who the hell would tell him differently? No studio exec is going to be that interested in how it's shot and Lucas is hardly about to stem one of his friends passions by banning the use of film... The making of DVD however is a different matter :), they could use a Red One for that but it doesnt exactly matter.

Nice picture Acehole, I think a good poster ad would be a picture of Spielberg sniffing a RedOne to see whether it smells good enough!
 
Spielberg has worked with the same editor, Michael Kahn, for all of his films. Kahn is still using KEM flatbeds and Moviolas by choice. There is no way that Spielberg will change his process in the near future. Any suggestion to the contrary is ill-informed.

With all due respect, Greg, I think its ill-informed to suggest that the Oscar winning editor, Michael Kahn, cut all of Spielberg's pictures.

Spielberg's monster hit, E.T, was NOT cut by Michael Kahn. It was actually cut by another Oscar nominated editor, Carol Littleton (Manchurian Candidate).

BTW, I think Lucas can conveniently add a RedOne to his workflow if he feels the need for it. Spielberg will understand.
 
And an uncomfortable silence suddenly fell over the reduser forums before somebody whispers..."oh no he just didn't"

Ha ha ha... if someone picks up on it this thread will be very very long, any way no way of knowing untill we get our REDs and start making our own tests.
 
Hey! I've got an idea. Let Stevie shoot in what ever format he wants. Hell, shoot tha damn thing in 65mm. Might as well find a use for all those 65 cameras (Arriflex, Showscan, Panavision etc.) sitting around gathering dust. Now here's the idea.... the Redone is so compact you could use it for the video tap ! That way Georgie could plug a direct video out into the BNCR plug thats been installed at the base of his brain stem. And also the vidiots over at the village would be frothing at the mouth. It's a win win situation !!!
 
Trust me, Lucas and Spielberg will personally appear on this forum 2nite... they will thrash it out themselves... man to man, how about that?
 
If Speilberg wants to still shoot film, that's up to him, but he should at least use 65mm, which looks so much nicer than 35mm, and scanned at 4k would be a great source for a super DI. It might even look as good as if he'd shot RED. :-)

Graeme
 
He said the smell of working in film...was the "smell of our art"

And art can't be created in digital cinema? With all due respects to Spielberg, I now prefer doing my art digitally. I also prefer the smell of money - being generated and staying in my bank account as net profit.
 
Digitally yours Steve, in both directions.
 
If Speilberg wants to still shoot film, that's up to him, but he should at least use 65mm, which looks so much nicer than 35mm, and scanned at 4k would be a great source for a super DI. It might even look as good as if he'd shot RED. :-)

Graeme

Yeah... what he said!
 
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