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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

RECODE and Sony Vegas?

During an earlier test I did it loaded just fine. That's not a guarantee for support though! But I like Vegas a lot so its definitely on my radar. I'm hoping they'll move to more than 8-bits soon, cross your fingers!

Oh, it also has a maximum of 2K x 2K resolution at the moment....

In this instance it loaded REDCODE RAW just fine. Keep in mind that you can load RAW footage into most QT supporting applications. REDCINE is another path to process your footage more akin to the film process.
 
if you want a 10 bit Vegas be sure to email or go by their booth and ASK for it....
 
As far as I know Sony Media Software is a different division than Sony Broadcast.

Does anyone know if NewTek SpeedEdit supports 10 and/or 12-bit at 2K and/or up?
 
Rob Lohman said:
...I'm hoping they'll move to more than 8-bits soon ... it also has a maximum of 2K x 2K resolution at the moment....
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I was nor aware of these limitations, thanks for pointing that out, Rob.
 
Rob Lohman said:
As far as I know Sony Media Software is a different division than Sony Broadcast.

Does anyone know if NewTek SpeedEdit supports 10 and/or 12-bit at 2K and/or up?
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Good question. I use the Toaster and I just asked your question on the VTNT user group. We'll see the response soon hopefully.
 
"sony will be so happy to help the RED effort. I'm sure they're good sports about it cutting into their camera market"

sony Vegas ( media line) is in madison,WI - far from Japan ...
you must have noticed that a sony camera will come to market and another NLE can edit it and Vegas doesn't till few months later ( or the next version) .... or sony will offer another NLE/product with the camera so you can edit , burn DVD etc ...

i'm not so sure how many of the 1500 reservation persons would have bought a sony camera - i would guess only a few ( to none) would have bought a cineAlta 900 series or Varicam ??? i know i wasn't looking at any sony or panasonic camera's - i was looking at kinetta , SI camera ..


IMO bottom line is $$ - how much will it cost in R&D for vegas to edit X clips ( native) and how many will persons will buy vegas because of that new item ..
out of 1500 REDS what percentage are planning to use Vegas ?
 
Toaster and Tricaster are only 8bit I thought? At least the VTNT was last I used it, but that was a few years ago. NewTek was supposed to be able to scale this somewhat through firmware and software updates. Either way, the VT hardware currently needs a huge upgrade (IMO). They haven't updated or revised the hardware in at least 3 years. SpeedEdit is kinda nice, I attended a demo of the software. But it was lacking a lot of the tools and support I need for my current workflow -- besides, FCP works just dandy for me right now. I think the bit-depth question was addressed at the demo session I attended and I want to say SpeedEdit is 10bit, but I'm not too sure.

SpeedEdit reminds me a lot of Edius. It has lots of technical capabilities or advantages on its side in terms of performance. But industry support is really non-existent at this point and support for a lot of common industry formats within the software is also lacking. I was really hoping that SpeedEdit would have native MXF support and DVCPROHD support. No dice on either.

Edit >> Looks like the consensus over on the NewTek forum is it's 8bit. No official word or specs I can find mention this so I'm not sure. SpeedEdit is resolution independent (even between various clips/formats on the same timeline). Looks like it only supports up to 2K.
 
If you have XDCAM HD and Vegas, you have an excellent package with full support and integration.
One of the biggest issues with Vegas developers is stability, they value that equal to anything else. I'm hoping they will feel more comfortable with Quicktime than directshow. But to be honest, 1500 cameras may not be enough to convince them to support it. They are big in the eng/Weva market. But who knows? I think they will move to 10bit when there are lots of prosumer cameras that output it. The are fast becoming an Island compared to others, but are still one of the best IMHO.

Joe C.
 
IMHO, Vegas is the RED One of NLE's - offering a top-notch feature set for a fraction of the price of other NLE's. It is a hell of a lot more accessible than FCP where one must navigate four menu levels and dialog boxes to import an HVX-200 P2 clip. Vegas is simply drag-and-drop.

I look forward to cutting many RED One shoots on my Vegas system. I'll put the money I saved on the NLE/hardware into my next picture.

Now, about that 8-bit color space...

Michael
 
Michael Morlan said:
It is a hell of a lot more accessible than FCP where one must navigate four menu levels and dialog boxes to import an HVX-200 P2 clip. Vegas is simply drag-and-drop.
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I wish I can comment on the Sony Vegas NLE, but fortanatly I proudly own Apple's Final Cut Pro. :biggrin:
 
vegas is great but p2 import in fcp is one window and flawless.
Aloha
-A
 
I like Vegas too... I switched from Vegas when I bought my HVX200. I tried Avid Xpress (too slow, too buggy with DVCPROHD and MXF at the time), Premiere Pro was buggy and didn't have support either at the time, so I went to FCP. Glad I did... Overall, it's a great editor and IMO, DVDSP and Motion2 are better than any competing product in the Windows market. Sure, there's Scenarist and other high-end stuff, but that's a different animal.

The problem with Vegas is it's still only 8bit. And their lack of attention and support to new formats and codecs is very concerning. But I think Sony is calling the shots on that aspect of development now, even though the SonicFoundry team still has free reign otherwise.

Not sure what Michael's complaint is over P2 import in FCP. It's actually 3 menu levels :tongue: and then a nice single window interface. Or you could bind it to a custom macro key to make it extra simple to access.

And how is Vegas drag and drop? It is for some formats, so is Premiere, but not for P2/DVCPRO media. You still have to use RayLight <gag> or CineForm to edit in Vegas with it. Admittedly, I haven't used Vegas with RayLight or CineForm since like a year ago and I know that a lot of this software had come along since then. But when RayLight still claims that they have near real-time performance, that says to me that they have improved, but still have a long way to go. You have to admire Edius in regards to DVCPROHD and MXF performance. It handles metadata and MXF files superbly and can play back multiple streams of DVCPROHD in real-time, even on older AMD X2 2.2GHz and 2.6GHz P4 systems.
 
I'm still using Premiere Pro 1.5, but I LOVE the evaluation copy of Vegas 7, and I'm dying to switch. I would love it if I could shoot REDCODE, downrez to 1080p, and edit in Vegas someday.
 
You can do that Ralph, if there's a decent enough QuickTime codec inbetween
REDCINE & Vegas (like REDCODE RGB). Of course, it's still 8-bit.
 
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