Question on Varispeed (no ramp)

[Yousuf Abbasi]

With RED ONE, latest firmware, I am trying to do a shot using varispeed without using ramp, but instead of the varispeed starting immediately, it is delayed like 10 seconds.

In other words:

hit record -> 10 seconds of 24fps -> immediate change to 60fps (no ramp)

then another shot, do the reverse:

hit record -> 10 seconds of 60fps -> immediate change to 24fps (no ramp)


How is possible? THANKS!

 

[Yousuf Abbasi]

BUMP ... ?

 

[Yousuf Abbasi]

Can someone from RED chime in on this..? It must be possible.

 

[Ted Parkes]

You shoot the entire scene at 60fps and in post you run the clip at 250 % for the first 10 seconds then 100% .. revers for the other clip.

 

[Nick Morrison]

Yousuf, I'm in edit a lot, and in this situation we normally just use a single 60fps shot....We speed it up 250% to have it "look" 24fps...and then do a cut and revert back to the native 60fps footage when we want to "slow it down".

IE - wouldn't shooting everything at 60fps, but in post speeding the footage up to 24fps...achieve the same effect as doing it in camera?

You may want to consider at least testing this out.

Best of luck.

 

[Nick Morrison]

You shoot the entire scene at 60fps and in post you run the clip at 250 % for the first 10 seconds then 100% .. revers for the other clip.

Ha! You beat me to it. I'm literally in edit and have been typing up my answer for the past 20mins....8 words at a time.....I'm a terrible mutli-tasker!

 

[Ted Parkes]

No problem Nick .. Yousuf the nice thing about doing it in post is you can time the frame rate change to the scene perfectly.

 

[Jon Jones]

I was wondering this exact thing over the past few weeks! Thanks fellas!

 

[Nick Morrison]

Yousuf the nice thing about doing it in post is you can time the frame rate change to the scene perfectly.

Exactly. I work in promos, and we do this all the time. We'll do a music change, have a stop down, and SLAM...cut to the slow mo...and then WHAM go back to real time. We always cut it right to the beat, right to the moment we need EXACTLY. Looks KILLER.

 

[Yousuf Abbasi]

Nick, Ted- Awesome. That's a great solution, I love this forum !! You're right, it will be much easier to do the timing in post.

 

[Tom Jay Smith]

We used this method loads in our last promo for a music festival...

 

[Robert Knoll]

I do a lot of 120fps on a Red and have not seen this. Could be the 10 second pre record option turned on?

Bob