Question: Gimbal weight shifter - Titla armor man 2 vs Readyrig GS

[Yousef Hasan]

I'm currently using a ronin. When given enough camera, lens, monitor...etc it all adds up as anyone who operated a gimbal for 2 minutes would know.

I've seen reviews of the Readyrig GS and it's been pretty good from everything I've seen, one thing that bothers me is that it uses a strap, so therefore I'm guessing that when holding it up (therefore the strap would fold a little Im guessing?) it would mean the weight wouldnt be shifted at all to the rig persay. But it gives full range of vertical motion so that's a huge plus and it doesn't get in the way at all.

Armor man 2, seems like it sticks to the gimbal from below and from what I see it gives the operator easy hand-off to others as welll ,though I'm not working with other videographers most of the time and when I am it's usually not switching operators. So that's not a main concern. The main thing is shifting the weight which is what this thing is used for. It looks unobstructive as well, looks like it can go full vertical motion and it would support the gimbal all the way but I can't know for sure how both compare as I don't know/seen anyone online even that has used both who could say how they differ. If the usage is more or less the same, I might get the tilta armor man 2 just on the basis of it looking better.


Other things come into mind, set up time and weight of the rig itself. It would have to be transported to/from places and of course either by a bag, or being on my body. So if the set up time is significantly longer and more complex from one and the other that does also come into mind. I'd like some guidance into where I should sway on this as it'll be an accessory that will stay with me for quite some time. I know either way I probably won't regret the purchase but I'd like to at least know what I'm getting myself into.

For example, a person whos never flown a drone buying a matrice 600 outright and rigging it full. Probably would be better off with a toy drone or a phantom at the most.

I've considered steadicams and rigging them to suit it, but it's too cumbersome. I've come down to these two options though if there's anything out there that's better and about the same price I'm open to suggestions.

This forum is probably the most informed on this subject so I appreciate your opinions and thoughts

 

[Brendan H. Banks]

The search tool is your friend : http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?148495-Tilta-Armor-Man-2-vs-Ready-Rig

 

[Yousef Hasan]

The search tool is your friend : http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?148495-Tilta-Armor-Man-2-vs-Ready-Rig

I actually looked around so much in google spent days. I feel like an idiot now haha

Although there's not much in terms of comparisons. Mainly just people advocating getting the armor man which is the way I'm currently leaning towards.

 

[Yousef Hasan]

Haha, yeah it was half joke half serious...especially because it was your first post. To be fair, it didn't come up on search the first time for me but i remember the thread so I found it quickly.

I personally use a knock-off of the classic EasyRig + Flowcine Serene -- I use one that is the Flycam 600n with the Flowline Placid. I operate my gimbal for long periods in doc situations and need extra support, plus I want to have a system that works for non-gimbal work too. I know a great Movi op who swears by the ReadyRig, and plenty more here who dig the ArmorMan. Don't know your location but check out a local rental house if you can and try some on for size.

There are a bunch of posts from around May talking ArmorMan (in light of NAB) so maybe do some digging in DISCUSSION and ACCESSORIES...sometimes posts are buried in other NAB-based threads.

Best of luck!

yeah the readyrig does seem like it can double up as a tool for pretty much anything else as much as carrying your groceries. Not what I'll be doing but it's an idea haha

There was a readyrig in my location (Middle east, Kuwait) but it's all out of stock at the moment. Armor man isn't carried here at all so either way it'll have to be shipped internationally. Price comes out the same for both having said that.

I'd like to know a bit more in terms of usage on both. Probably can't just throw the gimbal up and expect it to go upright position if using the armor man for example.

How's your usage with the "easyrig" and flowcine combo? would you recommend it?
My usage would be shooting sports/gyms possibly half day/day at a time in the near future so that's not something I can physically do even at my peak haha

 

[constantine Tirintzis]

yeah the readyrig does seem like it can double up as a tool for pretty much anything else as much as carrying your groceries. Not what I'll be doing but it's an idea haha

There was a readyrig in my location (Middle east, Kuwait) but it's all out of stock at the moment. Armor man isn't carried here at all so either way it'll have to be shipped internationally. Price comes out the same for both having said that.

I'd like to know a bit more in terms of usage on both. Probably can't just throw the gimbal up and expect it to go upright position if using the armor man for example.

How's your usage with the "easyrig" and flowcine combo? would you recommend it?
My usage would be shooting sports/gyms possibly half day/day at a time in the near future so that's not something I can physically do even at my peak haha

PLEASE do not get mixed up , both the Easyrig and the Serene arm from flowcine can not in any way be comparable in performance and materials with those copycats which are pretty illegal and we have stopped them selling from the market various times. Several cases using higher loads that bought those copycats had break downs and some even damaged their lenses. The Serene arm is an original patented product from Flowcine with great support and made off quality materials. How do I know? Im the designer. Be aware, when you use copycats ,not only you put your camera gear on risk, you also hearting the industry and innovation. There are several support systems that are original and if price is your issue, the options are there. Bying copycats is like helping thieves to sell stolen property.
regards

 

[Dan Kanes]

Personally, huge fan of the ReadyRig. Very adjustable for your body type (I'm a little on the fat side right now)... Well made, and easy to use. If you need to go from high to low or bottom basement low to high in a single shot - I think the ready rig is for you. It's just a more fluid design I believe. I will try to put my hands on Armorman 2 to try as well.

 

[constantine Tirintzis]

Personally, huge fan of the ReadyRig. Very adjustable for your body type (I'm a little on the far side right now)... Well made, and easy to use. If you need to go from high to low or bottom basement low to high in a single shot - I think the ready rig is for you. It's just a more fluid design I believe. I will try to put my hands on Armorman 2 to try as well.

and its an original design who is also starting to get copied. Dont buy copycats. Buy original gear from original innovators.
there is plenty out there for every taste and pocket.

thats the main purpose of my post above.

cheers

 

[Stephen Mickelsen]

Agree with Dan - I'm also a big fan of the Ready Rig GS. It allows me to operate the fully loaded Ronin, high or low, for very long stretches of time - something I couldn't do without it. Highly recommended!

 

[Yousef Hasan]

PLEASE do not get mixed up , both the Easyrig and the Serene arm from flowcine can not in any way be comparable in performance and materials with those copycats which are pretty illegal and we have stopped them selling from the market various times. Several cases using higher loads that bought those copycats had break downs and some even damaged their lenses. The Serene arm is an original patented product from Flowcine with great support and made off quality materials. How do I know? Im the designer. Be aware, when you use copycats ,not only you put your camera gear on risk, you also hearting the industry and innovation. There are several support systems that are original and if price is your issue, the options are there. Bying copycats is like helping thieves to sell stolen property.
regards

I did not advocate the use of stolen intellectual property, merely the usage of the devices of such technique. Either way my choices are between the Readyrig gs and the armor man 2. Though thank you for your input. I do like the design and I think it's great especially for mounting on cars and whatnot, though that won't be the usage for what I'll be doing.

Personally, huge fan of the ReadyRig. Very adjustable for your body type (I'm a little on the fat side right now)... Well made, and easy to use. If you need to go from high to low or bottom basement low to high in a single shot - I think the ready rig is for you. It's just a more fluid design I believe. I will try to put my hands on Armorman 2 to try as well.

How do you say setting up is like and transportation? does it ever loosen/loses the weight shifting properties as you're moving it high up and down? How is adjusting the nobs so it would be steady on say, eye level? Then I guess force-moving it down/up? Feedback would be much appreciated!

Agree with Dan - I'm also a big fan of the Ready Rig GS. It allows me to operate the fully loaded Ronin, high or low, for very long stretches of time - something I couldn't do without it. Highly recommended!

Any regrets/things you wish it could do that other rigs can't? for your usage? Mine, again is going to be mostly single operator and mostly doing sports so I'll be running around a lot and shooting for a couple of hours at a time at least.


The readyrig is purchasable at where I live, out of stock but I can put an order through I suppose. so if that's the case I might as well just get it.

 

[constantine Tirintzis]

I did not advocate the use of stolen intellectual property, merely the usage of the devices of such technique. Either way my choices are between the Readyrig gs and the armor man 2. Though thank you for your input. I do like the design and I think it's great especially for mounting on cars and whatnot, though that won't be the usage for what I'll be doing.

Yousef, Im not going to argue with you Im just going to state some facts

1) there is a difference in between original devices with proper r+d and cheap copycats meaning....there is no comparison in performance nor quality , so the answers will not be valid. Its like asking if a G70 or a PRO GPI arm as a device is a effective arm and someone is answering your question talking about a chinese knock off which is also a stabilizing arm and a copycat

2) No the easyrig and Serene were never made for car mounting or vehicle , its made for hand held stable shots and vertical stabilization.

3) The copycats also copied RRig already and its sold in cheap indian crapy webstores, would you like someone to evaluate and answer your questions based on that? Or rather would it be valid answers?

I didnt write this to tell you what to buy, or even attract your interest,I wrote what I did to ask you guys to not support copycats. Im good with any original product and innovation, what Im not good with is thieves.

My 2 cents so Im clear..

 

[Brody_B]

Constantine, I get your gripe about people ripping your IP off, it is super fucked, but let the guy get his thread back about RR and Armorman2.

I've never tried the Tilta personally but my RR is awesome. Having the arm above your shoulders allows for un restricted movement and the ability to go really high. Also its not too heavy with its carbon fiber arms. Setup is fast. The only thing, and this is a small 1, is with a heavily weighted down camera rig the bungee straps that attach to your gimbal get maxed out, and stop the additional shock absorbing (Im talking about a large brick, full size matte box, and heavy gimbal, etc) The pro arms might already come with a fix to this, but 2 mini serene arms for the RR would be probably the ultimate stability setup. I am trying out a stronger bungee configuration I will be building soon, plus strapping the Brick to your vest, plus clip on MB is another fix to this. Im sure the Armor man is good too, but I really have nothing but good things to say about the RR.

 

[constantine Tirintzis]

Constantine, I get your gripe about people ripping your IP off, it is super fucked, but let the guy get his thread back about RR and Armorman2.

I've never tried the Tilta personally but my RR is awesome. Having the arm above your shoulders allows for un restricted movement and the ability to go really high. Also its not too heavy with its carbon fiber arms. Setup is fast. The only thing, and this is a small 1, is with a heavily weighted down camera rig the bungee straps that attach to your gimbal get maxed out, and stop the additional shock absorbing (Im talking about a large brick, full size matte box, and heavy gimbal, etc) The pro arms might already come with a fix to this, but 2 mini serene arms for the RR would be probably the ultimate stability setup. I am trying out a stronger bungee configuration I will be building soon, plus strapping the Brick to your vest, plus clip on MB is another fix to this. Im sure the Armor man is good too, but I really have nothing but good things to say about the RR.

Brody-B I reacted when the question was addressed towards the rip off copycat of our product,asking about its performance..Its not a hijacked thread its just an alarm when someone talks about someones IPs theft just in case. Noone holds the thread behind bars.

regards

 

[Yousef Hasan]

Constantine, I get your gripe about people ripping your IP off, it is super fucked, but let the guy get his thread back about RR and Armorman2.

I've never tried the Tilta personally but my RR is awesome. Having the arm above your shoulders allows for un restricted movement and the ability to go really high. Also its not too heavy with its carbon fiber arms. Setup is fast. The only thing, and this is a small 1, is with a heavily weighted down camera rig the bungee straps that attach to your gimbal get maxed out, and stop the additional shock absorbing (Im talking about a large brick, full size matte box, and heavy gimbal, etc) The pro arms might already come with a fix to this, but 2 mini serene arms for the RR would be probably the ultimate stability setup. I am trying out a stronger bungee configuration I will be building soon, plus strapping the Brick to your vest, plus clip on MB is another fix to this. Im sure the Armor man is good too, but I really have nothing but good things to say about the RR.

I definitely won't be operating a heavy camera at the moment and if I do it'll be a red raven probably or the like.


After looking at a few more reviews and whatnot, readyrig seems just more comfortable to use for the operator. From both usage and transportation/set up time. I'll probably make up my mind tomorrow and have it by next week friday delivered.

 

[Stephen Mickelsen]

Any regrets/things you wish it could do that other rigs can't? for your usage? Mine, again is going to be mostly single operator and mostly doing sports so I'll be running around a lot and shooting for a couple of hours at a time at least.

No regrets at all - one of my favorite tools. I can run it completely by myself, just build up the rig on the Ronin, hook up the bars and I'm good to go. 2 hours or more is not a problem and I'm 57 years old.