ProRes Recording

[Kenneth C Merrill]

Don't know much about ProRes implementation on the DSMC[SUP]2[/SUP]​ bodies. Will Raven record ProRes alone or only simultaneously with Redcode?

 

[Bob Gundu]

Don't know much about ProRes implementation on the DSMC[SUP]2[/SUP]​ bodies. Will Raven record ProRes alone or only simultaneously with Redcode?

It can record only proRes if you like.

 

[Kenneth C Merrill]

That's what I like to hear!

 

[John Shofner]

In 4k? Or just 2k full sensor down sample?

 

[Kenneth C Merrill]

I think it's 2k downscaled, up to 60fps.

In 4k? Or just 2k full sensor down sample?

 

[Elsie N]

I think it's 2k downscaled, up to 60fps.

I wonder how it would look if then upscaled to 4k in post or on an upscaling tv?

 

[Kenneth C Merrill]

Probably not very good. But I don't care. I never deliver anything in 4K anyway

I wonder how it would look if then upscaled to 4k in post or on an upscaling tv?

 

[Morgan Cooper]

Life saver! I really can't wait- I'm curious as to what the bit-depth is of the Pro-Res and whether or not it maintains the same DR as redcode

 

[David Peterson]

Life saver! I really can't wait- I'm curious as to what the bit-depth is of the Pro-Res and whether or not it maintains the same DR as redcode

ProRes HQ is 10bit 422

 

[jake blackstone]

ProRes HQ is 10bit 422

That is with 4k, in 2K to can record 444 and 444XQ.

 

[Bérenger Brillante]

but 4k prores with weapon only, not raven.
Raven is prores 2k scaled.

 

[Ashley Stracke]

2k as in a sensor crop?

i was looking forward to shooting raven and instantly having access to 1080p pro res files, is that something raven can do, or was i interpreting the info wrong.?

 

[Kenneth C Merrill]

Negative. The prores is scaled from the full Raven sensor.

 

[Ashley Stracke]

terrific

 

[Bob Gundu]

2k as in a sensor crop?

i was looking forward to shooting raven and instantly having access to 1080p pro res files, is that something raven can do, or was i interpreting the info wrong.?

The Ravens ProRes capabilities are the same as Weapons except the ProRes files will be limited to 2K. Thats a 2K resolution file from the full sensor - meaning its not cropped. So yes, you can use the ProRes files immediately.

 

[JoakimZiegler]

The FAQ states there's no LUT support, but you can still choose color spaces/transfer curves, so something like RedLogFilm or similar for the ProRes recording, correct?

 

[Gunleik Groven]

The FAQ states there's no LUT support, but you can still choose color spaces/transfer curves, so something like RedLogFilm or similar for the ProRes recording, correct?

It would be logical to treat the prores's more or less like the RAW files, as flat + metadata files.

I dunno yet if RED is implementing a CDL header in their prores files, but if not there are a few solutions on their way that would take the log signal and transform it with or without a grade/look for on-set preview or post processing.

Prores redlogfilm is not RAW, but it is also a very robust format to work with, if treated right.

 

[Jake Wilganowski]

Hmm, so no 3d LUTS on Raven? What else is missing?

 

[Mark T Workman]

The Ravens ProRes capabilities are the same as Weapons except the ProRes files will be limited to 2K. Thats a 2K resolution file from the full sensor - meaning its not cropped. So yes, you can use the ProRes files immediately.

So a 2K sensor crop to ProRes for Raven, a 4K sensor crop for Weapon? Is this correct?

 

[Phil Holland]

So a 2K sensor crop to ProRes for Raven, a 4K sensor crop for Weapon? Is this correct?

No. Maximum output resolution of ProRes is 2K for Raven of whatever resolution/format you are shooting in within the 4.5K sensor. Specifically a maximum of 2K ProRes 422 HQ up to 60fps.

Weapon MG is 2K up to Apple ProRes 4444 XQ up to 60fps.

Weapon CF/Forged is Apple ProRes 422 HQ up to 4K 29.97fps or Apple ProRes 4444 XQ up to 2K up to 120fps. I'm betting there's more to be squeezed out of the CF/Forged models on this front too.

Long and the short of that info is processing power makes up for that difference in a big way.