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Problems with renaming Red files?

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I always rename my mov, mp4 and canon raw files, but I do not touch the Red files, however I would like to since I Think the default names are not very helpful.

Now, does anyone know where they store the name in their data structure?

- I know we have the folder name
- We have the R3D files which are named the same but with a 00n in the end
- We also have the RMD file which has an idential name of the clip, but I dont see any name stored inside the RMD data structure.
So from my point of view it looks as if you rename these files to the same name then you should be fine.

And yes I know of dangers of renaming files, but you could test the whole pipeline to make sure its safe.

It would not be overly hard for me to write a tool that renames all the files so the folder, rmd and red files are identically named.

Cheers
/Andreas
 
Do not do this. Its destroys the integrity of the file structure.

Never rename r3d media. Ever.

David
 
Would be handy if the Redcine-X R3D Trim export format didn't have the renaming option disabled.

Don't know of one, but maybe one of the ingest applications could do it when uploading the R3D's?

Seems the R3D & RMD structure is too complicated for an easy renaming solution though.
 
AndreasOberg said:
It would not be overly hard for me to write a tool that renames all the files so the folder, rmd and red files are identically named.

Cheers
/Andreas
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Personally, I never rename any of my files; from any camera. I do give them working "pseudonyms" within FCPX which solves any problems with obtuse naming. I would echo David's comment above - NEVER rename RED files.

If you decide to make that tool, if I were you I'd be worried about liability for mucking up someone's files and project somewhere down the road. As for me, I'd stay as far away from that tool as I could get; just not worth the potential trouble.
 
There might also be a way to make more use of the metadata info to organize files.
 
Terry VerHaar said:
Personally, I never rename any of my files; from any camera. I do give them working "pseudonyms" within FCPX which solves any problems with obtuse naming. I would echo David's comment above - NEVER rename RED files.
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I agree 100%. Just rename the metadata.

The only exception I can think of would be crappy GoPros and other cameras shooting MP4 files that are basically "001", "002," and so on, since you run a risk of running into a conflicting file name the next day. I would do two things: 1) transcode to a better file format for post (DNxHD or ProRes 422HQ), and 2) rename the file with a suffix to denote the day, like "001-10917" for the first file shot on 10/9/2017. If you have two cameras at once, you could go, "A001-10917." Keep each day's worth of material in a single folder for that camera. Don't go beyond this. There are very simple file-renaming utilities that can do this.

But with normal Raw file formats like Red and Canon or Alexa or Sony or whatever, just leave them alone and in the exact same folder structure they have. Only worry about the metadata for post. The file name does not matter.
 
never rename your original media.. bad idea for reconforming later.. like others have said, that is what metadata or bins are for.
 
Tim Daust said:
never rename your original media.. bad idea for reconforming later.. like others have said, that is what metadata or bins are for.
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+1
My advice as well. Try learn to work wit the structure from the mag intact. Round tripping, offline online, grade and so on will work like a charm compared to if you rename or move things around.

Only thing, possibly move out the proxies to separate folder. easily done in the finder just make a search in your source media folder for ".mov" and grab those files and put them seperatly as som NLE can't find them within the r3d folder structure or see the difference between them and the r3d's in their searches. But preferably let them stay in the same folder as well.
 
Not a lynching.

Just one of those things you don't do, like dunking your cookie into the coffee until crumbs fall into the bottom of the cup. :)

David
 
David Battistella said:
Not a lynching.

Just one of those things you don't do, like dunking your cookie into the coffee until crumbs fall into the bottom of the cup. :)

David
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Being a Brit, I dunk my biscuit into my cup (of tea) on a regular basis... and play the game of risk regarding how long you let it sit in the tea before pulling it out. It's a fine line between nice moist biscuit and the calamity of a full half biscuit dropping off and disappearing into the depths of your cup... then you have the choice of drinking quickly or risking biscuit 'mush' at the bottom of the cup, that'll taint the flavour of the tea.

Maybe I need to get out more :)

As for Andreas initial rename issue, I tend to use folders to organise for editing.
 
When the cookie crumbles, it's time to re-steep the tea.

Nobody wants a mouthful of crumbly biscuit at the bottom of a cup of builders tea!
 
Don't listen to these guys. Renaming files is great sport. Anybody can NOT rename them, but where's the fun in that?

For a real challenge, rename them something similar to the RED nomenclature. That will get the blood flowing.

Will never forget Michael Cioni's emphatic query to me years ago, "YOU DIDN'T RENAME YOUR FILES, DID YOU?" I had not, nor would I, but like Marc Wielage suggested, did make a note in the metadata for ease of use. Order was restored in the RED universe.

But I have started to rename my children on random occasion. Have no idea where they are.
 
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