Poll: Will you use Final Cut Studio with Red?

[Drew Mylrea]

Sorry for being a booger. Episode 1 was shot on 35, 2 and 3 on the CineAlta. I'd say a better comparison would be Zodiac, which IMHO looked amazing.

 

[feb31films]

Agreed - the addition of Final Touch (I mean COLOR!) and ProRes makes Final Cut Studio THE NLE for indie film and many other markets. Though, this is not the first trade show where Apple failed to deliver EVERYTHING its professional users wanted. It's a bit of a CATCH 22 with Apple, they make such great strides with professional products, but go through periods where the professionals get back burner-ed for the consumer products. The iMac, the iPod and now with the upcoming iPhone. But those consumer products are what keeps Apple in business. Without those sales, there wouldn't be enough money for R&D on the professional end. I'm waiting with bated breath (as most of you are I'm sure) that right after the release of Leopard, we'll see the release of ProRes 4:4:4. and then the revolution will be truly at hand!

 

[feb31films]

I was thinking of returning to the tried and true industry standard (see attachment) failing that since I own FCS, the computers, monitors and drives plus the upgrade to FCS 2 is $499 it's a "no brainer" especially since the REDCODE codec update is in the near future.

LOL!!! Yeah, I think I'll shoot my next feature with my KODAK Brownie II 8mm camera (now with easier winding mechanism).

PS: How are you doing Ken? Did you make it home OK? Your story was inspiring. We wish you a speedy recovery.

 

[David Kirlew]

While I love what Apple is doing witih Final Cut Pro and the Studio I believe I will stick a CineForm workflow. Apple's ProRez, while VBR is still a DCT codec like Avid's DNxHD. It isn't wavelet like CineForm. With CineForm going cross platform later this year I can use it with Adobe Premiere and Final Cut Pro.

 

[Poi Boy]

With what you get from apple for $1299 I don't know how you could say the revolution ain't already at hand.
-A

 

[Stephen Gentle]

If I ever get a RED (or a red mini) I will probably go to FCS for editing, grading, titles, audio editing etc, and use After Effects (with Photoshop) for compositing, unless the Shake replacement is really cheap.

 

[Cail Young]

If I ever get a RED (or a red mini) I will probably go to FCS for editing, grading, titles, audio editing etc, and use After Effects (with Photoshop) for compositing, unless the Shake replacement is really cheap.

Shake itself is really cheap right now! Give nodal compositing a chance!

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Shake itself is really cheap right now! Give nodal compositing a chance!

Shake is awesome. Still one of the best compositing apps out there and in many ways can hold its own against the big guys like Fusion. ...Just because it's discontinued, doesn't mean people have stopped using it. It's $499, even cheaper from some mail order vendors. And the Apple Pro Series training book/DVD for it gets rave reviews from new users. If you need a compositing app, this is the way to go... Everything else is at least 10X the price. Well, there's always DFX+ (Fusion Lite), but it's only 8bit and really just meant for DV / HDV and still over $1K. After Effects is great too, but Shake is still a lot better at a lot of things and like I already said, with the price how can you pass it up?

 

[Nick Shaw]

I'll add my recomendation for Shake. Nodal compositing is the way to go for serious work. It takes a bit of getting used to after the layered approach of After Effects, but it's worth it.

When people get FCS 2, they will find there are similarities in look between Color and Shake, and Color also uses the nodal processing approach. So Shake won't look so strange once you've used color.

Looking forward to Phenomenon. The combination of the flexibility of Shake with the GPU acceleration of Motion will be a powerful tool indeed.

 

[Anders Holck]

Is Redcode compatible with my Steenbeck?

 

[nobodySpecial]

Great replies! Thanks!

Great replies! Thanks!

Wow! Thanks for all the replies. About 150 votes in less than 2 days. Very interesting too. My current 9-5 is as a software architect for a survey analysis company. All these great replies makes me wonder if we should call up RED and put a real survey together. :biggrin: Something that would give them a good idea of the current user base (film, broadcast, etc), and what the needs and concerns out there are (4k color, data storage, etc). Of course, they may have already asked all this when they got your reservation.

Later,
-Mark

 

[Chris Kenny]

Is Redcode compatible with my Steenbeck?

Not directly, but it's easy to transcode into the correct format with the right hardware.

 

[Stephen Gentle]

Shake itself is really cheap right now! Give nodal compositing a chance!

I know... I would love to get Shake, but I don't have a Mac. Of course if I get a good camera, I would buy a Mac Pro in a second. FCS is just too good to pass up!