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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Poll: Will you use Final Cut Studio with Red?

Poll: Will you use Final Cut Studio with Red?

  • Yes - I'm already an FCP user. All I need is the upgrade and camera.

    Votes: 132 73.7%
  • Yes - I will be moving exclusively to FCS2 from another workflow.

    Votes: 9 5.0%
  • Yes - I will be moving part of my workflow to FCS2.

    Votes: 10 5.6%
  • No - I'm changing workflows, but FCS2 is insufficient for me.

    Votes: 2 1.1%
  • No - FCS2 will not fit my IT environment.

    Votes: 10 5.6%
  • No - My current workflow will work great.

    Votes: 5 2.8%
  • Don't Know - I'm not sure FCS2 will handle my needs.

    Votes: 3 1.7%
  • Don't Know - I think my current workflow might be sufficient.

    Votes: 3 1.7%
  • Don't Know - I haven't given it enough thought.

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Other - Please explain in thread post.

    Votes: 4 2.2%

  • Total voters
    179
  • Poll closed .
Sorry for being a booger. Episode 1 was shot on 35, 2 and 3 on the CineAlta. I'd say a better comparison would be Zodiac, which IMHO looked amazing.
 
Agreed - the addition of Final Touch (I mean COLOR!) and ProRes makes Final Cut Studio THE NLE for indie film and many other markets. Though, this is not the first trade show where Apple failed to deliver EVERYTHING its professional users wanted. It's a bit of a CATCH 22 with Apple, they make such great strides with professional products, but go through periods where the professionals get back burner-ed for the consumer products. The iMac, the iPod and now with the upcoming iPhone. But those consumer products are what keeps Apple in business. Without those sales, there wouldn't be enough money for R&D on the professional end. I'm waiting with bated breath (as most of you are I'm sure) that right after the release of Leopard, we'll see the release of ProRes 4:4:4. and then the revolution will be truly at hand!
 
I was thinking of returning to the tried and true industry standard (see attachment) failing that since I own FCS, the computers, monitors and drives plus the upgrade to FCS 2 is $499 it's a "no brainer" especially since the REDCODE codec update is in the near future.


LOL!!! Yeah, I think I'll shoot my next feature with my KODAK Brownie II 8mm camera (now with easier winding mechanism).

PS: How are you doing Ken? Did you make it home OK? Your story was inspiring. We wish you a speedy recovery.
 
While I love what Apple is doing witih Final Cut Pro and the Studio I believe I will stick a CineForm workflow. Apple's ProRez, while VBR is still a DCT codec like Avid's DNxHD. It isn't wavelet like CineForm. With CineForm going cross platform later this year I can use it with Adobe Premiere and Final Cut Pro.
 
With what you get from apple for $1299 I don't know how you could say the revolution ain't already at hand.
-A
 
If I ever get a RED (or a red mini) I will probably go to FCS for editing, grading, titles, audio editing etc, and use After Effects (with Photoshop) for compositing, unless the Shake replacement is really cheap.
 
If I ever get a RED (or a red mini) I will probably go to FCS for editing, grading, titles, audio editing etc, and use After Effects (with Photoshop) for compositing, unless the Shake replacement is really cheap.

Shake itself is really cheap right now! Give nodal compositing a chance! :)
 
Shake itself is really cheap right now! Give nodal compositing a chance! :)

Shake is awesome. Still one of the best compositing apps out there and in many ways can hold its own against the big guys like Fusion. ...Just because it's discontinued, doesn't mean people have stopped using it. It's $499, even cheaper from some mail order vendors. And the Apple Pro Series training book/DVD for it gets rave reviews from new users. If you need a compositing app, this is the way to go... Everything else is at least 10X the price. Well, there's always DFX+ (Fusion Lite), but it's only 8bit and really just meant for DV / HDV and still over $1K. After Effects is great too, but Shake is still a lot better at a lot of things and like I already said, with the price how can you pass it up?
 
I'll add my recomendation for Shake. Nodal compositing is the way to go for serious work. It takes a bit of getting used to after the layered approach of After Effects, but it's worth it.

When people get FCS 2, they will find there are similarities in look between Color and Shake, and Color also uses the nodal processing approach. So Shake won't look so strange once you've used color.

Looking forward to Phenomenon. The combination of the flexibility of Shake with the GPU acceleration of Motion will be a powerful tool indeed.
 
Great replies! Thanks!

Great replies! Thanks!

Wow! Thanks for all the replies. About 150 votes in less than 2 days. Very interesting too. My current 9-5 is as a software architect for a survey analysis company. All these great replies makes me wonder if we should call up RED and put a real survey together. :biggrin: Something that would give them a good idea of the current user base (film, broadcast, etc), and what the needs and concerns out there are (4k color, data storage, etc). Of course, they may have already asked all this when they got your reservation.

Later,
-Mark
 
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