PL Mount Issue

[MalcomXB]

at the beginning of the month I prepped next to a red prod that was renting lenses for a RED camera body someone rented from an owner/op. The assistant photog sent back 3 sets of lenses saying that they were NFG.

someone from the rental house came out and the dop got all indignant and told the rental dude that his lenses are all messed up. the rental dude sadi, the lenses are fine, you got and f'd flange on you camera. the assist said, what's a flange? not a good sign. i tried my best not to laugh.

the dop asked the rental dude to fix the camera, and he told the dop they cant repair a camera not ownd by the rental house. with basic crap like the flange being off, it's a good thing theres a recall on the red camera.

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[Mike Prevette]

ughhhhhhh

 

[nzben]

It's pretty easy to overlook an issue if you dont know what it is, but 3 sets of NG lenses pretty much points towards the camera.

What was what I found frustrating (with the RED mount) was that I knew that something strange was going on but couldn't figure out what it was. Also there didn't seem to be any info released that actually stated what the problem was, only that there was one.

What I have found out is that if you shim the camera out far enough to get a modern PL lens to sit to fit properly (flush) in the mount & get the flange depth set properly at the same time, it should be fine with modern 35mm PL mount primes - Ultras, cookes, supers & presumably masters.

I presume that this is because these lenses are consistantly engineered to dimensions that are compatible with the initial RED camera port, where as other older ones or those with PL adapters are not. (or should that be the other way around?)

This is obviously not ideal, but is a good solution if you need the camera as more than a paper weight until the mounts are corrected.

 

[Dominic Cochran]

at the beginning of the month I prepped next to a red prod that was renting lenses for a RED camera body someone rented from an owner/op. The assistant photog sent back 3 sets of lenses saying that they were NFG.

Camera prep WOULD be the time to do this.

someone from the rental house came out and the dop got all indignant and told the rental dude that his lenses are all messed up. the rental dude sadi, the lenses are fine, you got and f'd flange on you camera. the assist said, what's a flange? not a good sign. i tried my best not to laugh.

You tried not to laugh from your vantage point of the camera prep? It sounds like at this point, the production was already on set and someone came out for tech support. Or was the Owner/Operator/DP/AC the same person and you were still in prep? If so, this isn't clear in your post.

the dop asked the rental dude to fix the camera, and he told the dop they cant repair a camera not ownd by the rental house. with basic crap like the flange being off, it's a good thing theres a recall on the red camera.

This makes sense regarding the rental house not wanting to repair (for free) a camera they don't own. And yes, it is good Red is upgrading the lens mount for everyone. The rest of this story doesn't make much sense to me, but maybe you just wrote it in a hurry.

 

[nzben]

he was at a rental house prepping for his job.

in the next bay there was another job being prepped, which was using a red camera.

the red job was using lenses from the rental house.

they were comming out soft

they tried 3 sets of lenses with the same result.

the point being that the problem lay with the camera mount, not the lenses

this post needs to be taken in context to the rest of this thread, which is all about the mount on the red camera and the fact that there are problems with it.

who the AC & DP were is irrelevent.

the punch line is that the AC didnt know what flange focus is, which kinda helpful to understand as an AC, & is also related to the cause of the problem in the first place.