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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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donatello said:
"accepted via wire transfer or cash equivalent (such as money order, Cashier’s Check, or personal check drawn from a United States bank). "

re: personal checks/money orders/cashier check - for persons outside US you must look at "drawn from US bank"
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........Goes without saying.......
 
BajaProductions said:
Sorry, I did not catch that in the beginning. All i saw was Kelly's post---WIRE INSTRUCTIONS--

I suppose your right about there not being much differance about a check and wire transfer....something about having a legal tender piece of paper that makes me feel good--nothing more. Call it my realm of comfort--not yours, only mine.
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believe it or not the bank gives you a receipt for a wire transfer.
 
digitalfx said:
believe it or not the bank gives you a receipt for a wire transfer.
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REALLY?? I was not aware of that. Thanks so much for that bit of information???

....has nothing to do with a receipt for my payment.
 
BajaProductions said:
REALLY?? I was not aware of that. Thanks so much for that bit of information???

....has nothing to do with a receipt for my payment.
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Well, if you are really that concerned they can provide proof of delivery to Reds bank...but at that point you would be opening a box that FedEx just delivered and playing with your new toy.
What confuses me is that you guys gave the man a $1000...on total faith that he would produce this camera. Now that you have seen footage and even the camera you are doubting that he will ship it...maybe pre-orders just arent for you.
 
So for all you angry people. Why not hand over you reserveration to me and forget about the whole thing?

I would be THRILLED to receive payment instructions, even if it WAS a breifcase full of unmarked small bills on a parking lot. I'd risk it!!! Take a loan. Rob a bank. Steal from your friends and family. Just pay the man!
 
Password Expired said:
Anyway, I hate all these film and industry people telling me how it is, as if they really earn money with their cameras, yeah right. $40,000 credit card purchases are completely normal and happen on a daily basis!
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The problem in this CC discussion is that there are exceptions to every rule. I've charged $30K items on my Amex and then had an on-line store refuse a $200 Amex charge becuz the fees were too high.

The jist is that Red has the right to make their own payment terms based upon their margin and any other arbitrary reasons they choose. Their ONLY fault might be that they did not disclose the terms earlier in the process and many assumed that CC's would be OK.

That said, those that let go of this issue and start arranging alternatives instead of pressuring Red will probably be the one's holding cameras in the months ahead.

RA Post
 
Jack Wester said:
So for all you angry people. Why not hand over you reserveration to me and forget about the whole thing?

I would be THRILLED to receive payment instructions, even if it WAS a breifcase full of unmarked small bills on a parking lot. I'd risk it!!! Take a loan. Rob a bank. Steal from your friends and family. Just pay the man!
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Jack, reservations cannot be transferred. But I will sell you my camera when I receive it next week. Please send payment via wire transfer to my bank, First National American USA Bank of National American Firsts. Account 12345678.

Wire transfer is completely valid as a payment option afterall. Or if you prefer, meet me in the parking lot near your house. I am in the trenchcoat in the alley smoking a cigarette.

/me stops being silly now
 
Hey RA Post, I agree with you. I think if Red took credit cards, that's great. If not, then time to come up with Plan B.
 
WOW ZAK!
cool picture...who took that?!

O wait I did..boo ya!



Zakaree said:
In Case you Missed my post on the other one:


Buyer must pay the full remaining balance of the invoice before order will be processed for shipment. Balance payments in the amount of $7,500 USD or greater will only be accepted via wire transfer or cash equivalent (such as money order, Cashier’s Check, or personal check drawn from a United States bank). Balance payments in the amount of $7,499.99 USD or less may be remitted via credit card payments, wire transfer or cash equivalent as outlined above.

Approximately 30 days before anticipated ship date RED will contact each customer to discuss final payment and method to release product to customer
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digitalfx said:
What confuses me is that you guys gave the man a $1000...on total faith that he would produce this camera. Now that you have seen footage and even the camera you are doubting that he will ship it...maybe pre-orders just arent for you.
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This is unreal I have to agree giving $1000 on faith then questioning if the company going to ship the camera. I don't do much posting but come on. This isn't B&H you're dealing directly with the company. They laid out how payment will be accepted. Now you don't trust the man?! I been reading these posts all day and I understand how some planned to use the CC's to pay the camera off. You can call Red up and see if there are other options. But don't rip the company because they don't take the whole amount on CC and tell them how to collect the money. I sure they took that into acount when they came up with the plan. I would call them rather then posting. If they stand firm then I would come up with a plan to get the other funds. I not going to to tell you well get another camera or welcome to the big leagues or some other BS. I would hope you come up with a plan so you still get your RED. I'm glad I have my funds sitting in the bank till my number comes up.
 
digitalfx said:
Well, if you are really that concerned they can provide proof of delivery to Reds bank...but at that point you would be opening a box that FedEx just delivered and playing with your new toy.
What confuses me is that you guys gave the man a $1000...on total faith that he would produce this camera. Now that you have seen footage and even the camera you are doubting that he will ship it...maybe pre-orders just arent for you.
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What???? who said anything about doubting the camera would ship? $1k is a far cry from $40k. But i am a little guy....never claimed to be much more. you sound like a giant of a rental company that can afforde more risk than myself. I never said i doubted red. I am uncomfortable with wire transfers---just in case you did no hear me the first time. I wire transfer all the time to my regular vendors and still I hope that they don't get in a car wreck the next day or some other kind of tradedy arises. I understand you are comfortable with talking about it and you are loctated not far from the source. you have more insight and are a wiser man than myself i'm sure.
 
BajaProductions said:
What???? who said anything about doubting the camera would ship? I am uncomfortable with wire transfers---just in case you did no hear me the first time. I wire transfer all the time to my regular vendors and still I hope that they don't get in a car wreck the next day or some other kind of tradedy arises.
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They have meds for this :)

btw- I am just a small company...no wiser than you.
 
Jack_Felis said:
From Mom,

"I want to believe 100% in the Red Company and it products. That being said I also must trust 30 years of business experience and a red flag has shot up when I read about the method of payment that is being floated for the RED.
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Sorry Jack (and mom), but I have to agree with the general consensus here. While wire-transfers are sometimes abused, they are still a legitimate and accepted form of payment in the business world. And like Zak has clarified, if you so desire, you can put almost half of it on a CC and send a check for the rest.

There's nothing about anything RED has done to suggest they're hiding anything. In fact, they're as far from a scam as you can get. They've been completely open through the whole process. If you have any doubts as to their legitimacy (or your ability to come up with the money), you might want to consider sending your reservation back.

I personally don't mind paying in cash. In fact, I usually do. As MY mom always used to say, never get into debt if you can absolutely help it. :wink:
 
.....This has gotten funny. Whatever the case....i'll send you some of my meds as well. They are much cheaper in mexico and I don't have to go to my bank for a loan to get a bottle....

I'm out of the discussion for now. I have my money and await my camera. And still won't wire transfer the money. Will go in person with a cashiers check, personal check (drawn on us bank) or meet someone from RED in the parking lot with the loot in a bag.

Much of this seems a moot point now. I am sure final word will come soon enough. Or rather someone from red will reaffirm what has already been said.

...still my point is CC is way easier, convieniant and hassle free for me and has nothing to do with not having the money or finding a better way to come up with the $$...
 
DANNY TANNER said:
DIBS on #634
I will send cash money in a manilla envelope if need be.. the company is definartly real and I definatly want a camera!

CHEERS!
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Reservations are non transferable and I never said I was out yet. I don't appreciate your comments and seeing as how you only have 3 posts so far with your particular name and avatar I think you're just wanting to start some trouble.

This is a serious issue that should be talked about, perhaps the boards aren't the best place, but it's better to let people at RED, who are all over these boards themselves, know that there is a problem than to keep things quiet or isolated to one random RED reservation holder's phone call.

Based on comments that are popping up, I don't think a lot of people are reading the entire thread and are instead focusing on the "last page" button to see the current situation. MONEY IS NOT THE ISSUE, THE PAYMENT METHOD IS. I've said this almost every time and still people are assuming that those who have complaints can't afford the camera. This is not true and is a very insulting snap judgment. If that is what you think then keep it to yourself. It doesn't pertain to the real issue.

I hope RED reconsiders and does indeed go with some sort of online ordering system, whether Paypal or the Google thing, or whatever.

Actually, RA Post said it best, RED should have let us in on the payment process earlier. Had I known that, I'm not sure whether I would have put down a reservation or not in the first place. Also, I wouldn't have to worry about my project schedule falling apart should I end up canceling at the last minute after being so close.

But, as I just said, I'm not out of it yet. November is still a few months away and who knows what will happen by then. For now, I'm off this discussion.
 
BajaProductions said:
.....This has gotten funny. Whatever the case....i'll send you some of my meds as well. They are much cheaper in mexico and I don't have to go to my bank for a loan to get a bottle....
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Thanks, I sent a PM with a list of the drugs I prefer. I'll send a PA with a sack of $1 bills.:sorcerer:
 
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