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Is there any Patents on this camera that would prevent Sony and Co from bringing out something just as good or even better. Because you know damn well one of these baby's will end up in their lab.
 
It's all down to how much they are willing to sell their version of it for. If they start to sell their version of a RED type camera at, or lower than RED's prices, well they can't sell their professional Cinealtas for hundreds of thousands anymore.
 
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garageman said:
It's all down to how much they are willing to sell their version of it for. If they start to sell their version of a RED type camera at, or lower than RED's prices, well they can't sell their professional Cinealtas for hundreds of thousands anymore.
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I think the RED will force other manufacturers to rethink their product line and pricing. Sony's pricing has always been way too high because they had no real competition and their service has been appalling for the same reason.
 
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garageman said:
...also has a lot to do with formats.
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yeah for sure...once you dominate one...you can dominate the other. but as soon as it all goes tapeless/digital, all bets are off. I remember paying 100k for a Media100 system. Now we have a complete FCP setup for about 10k, I think the same thing will happen with cameras. And really some people forget its still early days in Digital Cinema photography.
 
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I remember paying 100k for a Media100 system.
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Must have been a helluva Media 100 system for 100k, even A$. I used to work for a Media 100 reseller, and I can't think what extras you could have added to a Media 100 that would have come to that much. I am assuming you're not including decks, broadcast monitors etc, which you still need with FCP.
 
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Craig Bowman said:
I had a Media 100 LX and then migrated to an LE. Even with the Betacam SP deck, monitor and Mac The whole system was under $25K
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It was NZ dollars...so that was about 60k US at the time I think. It included the full service upgrade option, and that price will have included some other stuf, like scsi raids but not decks....but you get the idea

Anyhow...........we got off the subject
 
Bachman said:
Is there any Patents on this camera that would prevent Sony and Co from bringing out something just as good or even better. Because you know damn well one of these baby's will end up in their lab.
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SONY probably won't get into this price point. Why when they can sell a lesser camera for 10x the price. Maybe Nikon will get into this business?
 
It's the Ipod all over again for Sony. When it became clear that the Ipod was going to be THE new walkman, Sony actually made the statement that they should have been the ones to develop it, but they failed. Sony still to this day does not understand why the Ipod is so popular and it's the same reason that even if they could copy the Red very few people would buy it. Because the culture of that company thinks it can decide what's best for you and you will accept it because of that shiny chrome emblem. No longer though, information technology and open standard archetecture are making Sony a marginal player now. They still make great TVs though.
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Maybe someday Sony will stop selling glorified VCRs for $40,000.
 
Sony corporate culture and strategy would have to change drastically before they could even contemplate creating a RED competitor. Not going to happen any time soon.
 
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They still make great TVs though.
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I agree...everytime I walk through the TV department in electronics stores, I stop to view all the TVs. Over the years to the present, it's been the Sony TVs that my eyes felt most comfortable with. I like their TVs...
 
As for patents, I believe RED holds the patent for "awesome".

And the color red. Yeah, the whole thing. You aren't even allowed to see the red wavelength without risking suit.
 
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