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Oz the Great and Powerful

Proud of this show! My Epic worked on it for a couple of weeks too:)
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Mila is so down-to-earth. Love her. Thanks for sharing the interview, Brandon!
 
don't forget it was within a square frame as well - which was really cool (if only that kind of thoughtfulness permeated the production). that definitely creates a natural amplification of the window-effect.
 
Saw it the other day. Absolutely loved the first half. Then they had to remind us it was still in fact a Disney movie and kinda went down hill. Personally I thought Mila Kunis was absolutely awful. Some of the worst acting I've seen, I couldn't take her seriously at all, especially when she went into wicked witch mode, she didn't look right at all, just weird looking. I just think the witch storyline turned into a bit of a clusterfuck. "I believed in you once..." Oh wait...you mean yesterday??? I thought Weisz was great, just kinda fell apart with the apple bit. Franco and Morgan were ace though. Loved all their bits, not sure why he kept calling her Wanda though...

Yeah, the more I think about it I'd say Kunis ruined it for me.

But oh yeah...it looked FANTASTIC!!!
 
Does anybody know if the black and white opening was shot with Epic Monochromes or just desaturated color?
I was looking at the tonal gradation, but was unable to determine from what I saw.

The RGB triad: You have a "Red" camera shooting "Green", the Emerald City. All we need now is a major feature about the wild "Blue" yonder.

All Jarek has to do is to throw water on Mila (as a wicked witch) and she will melt and go away.
They had to get to the original "Wizard of Oz" somehow.
 
Gah, spoiler...
Jarek Zabczynski said:
especially when she went into wicked witch mode, she didn't look right at all, just weird looking. I just think the witch storyline turned into a bit of a clusterfuck.
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Good to hear Franco did well. He's a hard working guy.

Jarek Zabczynski said:
Franco and Morgan were ace though. Loved all their bits, not sure why he kept calling her Wanda though...
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and very nice to see the Epic shined.

Jarek Zabczynski said:
But oh yeah...it looked FANTASTIC!!!
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EDIT: Don't forget the vFX guys that made the visual marvels come to life. Those guys work hard and get little credit. Well done team.
 
ROAR! It's great when your baby get's to play a part in the creation.

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Stephen Smith said:
Proud of this show! My Epic worked on it for a couple of weeks too:)
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For a creation of modern Disney machine it's fine, I expected much worse in terms of the story, pacing and character development. The movie looks insanely good, anyway. Cinematography, production design and VFX all excellent. With such box-office debut I think it's safe to say the sequel is already in prep as we speak :). Congratulations to everyone involved.
 
Vadim Bobkovsky said:
For a creation of modern Disney machine it's fine, I expected much worse in terms of the story, pacing and character development. The movie looks insanely good, anyway. Cinematography, production design and VFX all excellent.
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Also a wonderful-sounding mix. Absolutely terrific sound -- hear it at a Barco Auro 11.2 theater if possible.
 
If I was a kid (which is obviously the target audience), I would have loved it. As an adult, I did too. It's no groundbreaking pixar story that gives you a roller coaster ride of emotions and clever dialogue and story twists. It's simply a straight forward story that's fun to watch.

I noticed our screen was a bit blurry. At first I thought it might be the camera but when they played the credits, the text looked a bit blurry too (which would never have focus problems). Anyhow, I loved the colors and the effects. The acting wasn't bad...not the strongest but sure it was due to acting/directing choices or politics.

Overall, I found it to be fun and well worth the admission despite the bad reviews.
 
Wil Wong said:
It's no groundbreaking pixar story that gives you a roller coaster ride of emotions and clever dialogue and story twists. It's simply a straight forward story that's fun to watch.

Overall, I found it to be fun and well worth the admission despite the bad reviews.
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A lot of reviewers seem to forget this. Sometimes all people want is simple fun to entertain them. This doesn't just apply to Film, most things that can be considered entertainment can be viewed this way.
 
I noticed our screen was a bit blurry. At first I thought it might be the camera but when they played the credits, the text looked a bit blurry too (which would never have focus problems).
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I saw the movie in a 3D Imax theater, and I also found the end titles a bit soft.
As one who has done a lot of title work throughout my career, I actually found the end titles to be unacceptable, and it was not the projector focus.
What I was seeing was either rendering to a lower resolution or using a sub-par codec.
Come on, title people, step it up. Don't make the rest of us, and the rest of the movie look bad.
 
yeesh, super bad. My 9-year old asked if we could leave about halfway through! but yes, images looked beautiful. I liked the B&W, its true that it gives the perception of increased dimension.
 
Mike Yonts said:
Love the black-and-white, love the Technicolor look!
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Saw it at an old film cinema at Ingham while traveling, one of my favorite little cinemas.

The black and white floating head was my favourite, looked nice and tight, but probably because it was cgi enhanced.

I did not see the max colour due to it being a film print, but the digital treatment made the film print look good, without grain that people used to think made film more authentic. Great little movie too, I would actually like to see a sequel. The only downside was the green witch, that woman is way to good looking for such a makeover.

Bad Skin on bayer compared to three chip:

Ok, one thing about this movie (not too much) and probably every Bayer single chip movie is less contrasty details on skin tones. I realised that apart from previous skin tone issues that disappeared after contagion and the latest underworld movies, I could not remember good skin details. Sure you may overlook this as covered by makeup, or by compression, but how real is it. The red pixel sparse bayer pattern with extreme anti aliasing low pass filter might be responsible for blurring out the detail reducing its contrast in normal situations. Now look at the bbc tv series "The Bill" from last decade, particularly interview room sequences with dark people, beautiful facial details, and I think on three chip cameras, but I cant be sure. Seeing good facial detail makes a ten times more impact on me, after all it is the voyeurouse look at peoples faces that we normally look at in communications. I have been very interested in 3 color pixel technology like Foveon, uniqueics, and Sony is rumoured to be working on in their 100 million pixel sensor. One of the cinema camera companies came up with the same sort of scheme I came up with in 2004 or so. With the foveon they have nearly 100% fillfactor and eliminated the low pass filter because in a 3 stacked color pixels with nearly 100% fill factor there is little need for it (though Grahame disagrees for some reason, if he is around I would love to know why). The other interesting thing is that 3 color compression is supposed to be more compressible (why the older cineform Bayer compressed so well is that they treated bayer colors like separate color images like 3 chip). So, couldn't 3 color pixel compression get closer to bayer in file size than the underlying 3 times data rate 3 color produces, would imply. I'm saying this because of what I'm going to say next, we would probably need 8k to finish in 4k (hopefully not in 2k) if this is true, that is more data than 3 color.

The patents on the foveon technology will be running out, so Red could use it.

What do you guys think about this argument?


Thanks.
 
jason dewey said:
yeesh, super bad. My 9-year old asked if we could leave about halfway through! but yes, images looked beautiful. I liked the B&W, its true that it gives the perception of increased dimension.
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I wonder if this has something to do with the results of lowpass filtering and debayering to color on edges?
 
Wayne Morellini said:
I wonder if this [perception of increased dimension] has something to do with the results of lowpass filtering and debayering to color on edges?
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Well, there are 100 year old large format contact prints that show an astonishing depth/dimensionality when compared to more modern materials. Some of the first images I saw from Epic hinted at at this elusive quality. Don't ask me how or why, I just know that it is one (digital) quality I am looking forward to maturing, particularly in cinema. Resolution combined with high DR are certainly an important part of the equation. Epic monochrome is pretty spectacular. And now, of course, the DRAGON is about to enter.
 
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