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One (actually 2) request(s) before you read the Nov '09 Announcement...

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(1) Clear your minds from anything previously projected by the RED Team concerning the DSMC.
(2) Don't expect handouts.


Hey Guys, first of all I would like to ask that you guys not think I am trying to be an elitst or a "it's gonna be all doom-and-gloom" kind guy when you read this.

(a) Before you guys read today's announcement, I beseech you that you please clear your minds from anything that's been said about the Scarlet's projected release dates and the Scarlet's projected specifications.

Some people felt discouraged/angry/abandoned after the October announcement. I believe the cause of this, was the false expectation that was placed upon RED.

Yes, RED had projected the Scarlet's release earlier this year. But, yes, RED has always maintained that their specs and delivery dates are subject to change...count on it. If you don't like this method of business, we don't hold that against you. But what I don't particularly care for, is when people who aren't paying customers to RED, believe that Jim Jannard has "promised" them such and such camera for such and such price at such and such a time. In reality, pretty much the only thing that Jim has promised is:

"Everything in life changes... including our camera specs and delivery dates..."

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone with a bad attitude.

So, please do your best to clear your minds/expectations of the DSMC and you will not be disappointed.​



(b) R&D (research and development) costs are way beyond what any of us might expect or imagine. These costs go up yet even higher when there are unexpected glitches such as an "ASIC issue" during the construction of the DSMC.

RED is not only building a sensor and a body, but almost a plethora of modules to make this a reality.

With all of these costs, why should anybody expect/beg for handouts? (I'm not attacking anyone personally, in fact I can't think of a specific name as I type this)

I would like to see RED succeed in what they do, and the plan for this to happen is not to lose money on every sale just people entered a username and password to log into a forum.

If RED feels like they want to be generous and give the early adopters who had faith in the alleged (vaporware), I think "they didn't have to do that, nor did they necessarily owe it to the early adopters". But at the same time, I rejoice with those early customers who will be the beneficiaries of those blessings.​
 
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I agree. The 3K for $3K was a very cool idea, but the latest version of Scarlet we've seen is so much better and more expandable that it's amazing that it is still so cheap!
 
I'm glad you put this post here too.

It seems like the Scarlet Users over here haven't been waiting as long as us Natives over at Scarletuser, so they're not used to this roller coaster ride.
 
This thread is a nice breath of fresh air before the whine-storm that will hit this site today. I'm thankful for RED and all their hard work and will gladly pay for a camera when it's ready. Until then, I'll be patiently reading here and going about a normal life, lol.
 
You dont have to have registered at scarletuser to be a native long dedikated waiter:smile:
 
My mind is clear until the day comes when a "buy now" or "pre-order" button is on red.com .... untill that day arrives, I will enjoy my 5dII and HVX200.

Today is just another changeable announcement. Hopefully an interesting one though!
 
Yes agree with Joseph on all parts.

Its been very quiet on here this past week or so, unlike pre 30th October, maybe everyones holding breath or just a little under the weather as we say in the UK. l guess most people have sensed that. Little comment by the RED team so hoping this a going to be a great announcement for us scarleteers!

Well lm not waiting up this time, just log in early tomorrow and hope for the best news!!

1. Pricing for the Scarlet line
2. Release date, the most important statement.

Here's hoping
 
Yes agree with Joseph on all parts.

Its been very quiet on here this past week or so, unlike pre 30th October, maybe everyones holding breath or just a little under the weather as we say in the UK. l guess most people have sensed that. Little comment by the RED team so hoping this a going to be a great announcement for us scarleteers!

Well lm not waiting up this time, just log in early tomorrow and hope for the best news!!

1. Pricing for the Scarlet line
2. Release date, the most important statement.

Here's hoping

Most of us in the USA are still recovering from Thanksgiving dinners and their aftermath. Leftovers anyone?
Plus the anticlimatic Oct 30th event has everyone just chilling and hoping for the best.
Besides, the Cowboys won, so no matter what it is a good week.
 
Yes agree with Joseph on all parts.

Its been very quiet on here this past week or so, unlike pre 30th October, maybe everyones holding breath or just a little under the weather as we say in the UK. l guess most people have sensed that. Little comment by the RED team so hoping this a going to be a great announcement for us scarleteers!

Well lm not waiting up this time, just log in early tomorrow and hope for the best news!!

1. Pricing for the Scarlet line
2. Release date, the most important statement.

Here's hoping

My advice, and I certainly could be wrong, would be not to expect any firm dates. I would expect something more along the lines of the Epic rollout in the Oct announcement. Perhaps they will announce a general release framework along the lines of the EPIC stages, however, given the known ASIC problems I find it very hard to believe Jim will announce firm dates - especially given his recent comments about how RED isn't very good at meeting those dates. After all, we still don't have EPIC dates and that is being released first!
 
All I just expect for today is more informations... and maybe a few pics( ;) ), that's what makes me hold on until release ! knowing that the project still continues...
 
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