November 30th Announcement Feedback

[Bill Anderson]

Scarlet is so damned petite set against the Nikon-
it looks about the same size as a Rolleiflex; hard to
believe it packs such a wallop. And those mini primes: wow.
Can't imagine what Epic will unleash. Very generous.
Thank you.

 

[Jarred Land]

All truly superb news.
Jarred: for those of us with existing 2/3" glass who'd like to have the option to occasionally use the baby Scarlet for ENG/EFP style work, will there be a way to mount B4 lenses? Admittedly the image quality is inferior to primes, but there are plenty of times where I use the full 18x range of a B4 zoom (or even 36x with extender).

I'll take you up on the offer to see the new lenses on a projector... will be in CA soon & will call about that. Thanks for all the hard work, guys!

Let me know when you are in town Scott.

And since the mount is interchangeable, there will be many options available... we are still deciding which ones to come out with first.

 

[Yannick Sadler]

I use my iPhone to measure the camera tilt angle all the time for high-end VFX on big budget jobs. When properly calibrated it is just as accurate as my $650 digital inclinometer.

Interesting. I'll try it up.

As far as WAAS-augmented GPS, surveyors use it to align bridges and buildings within millimeters. If your FX guys can't adapt to small errors like that then you are using the wrong FX guys.

WAAS is a speculation at this point. Even "compass" was not specified. The post from Jarred state:

"3-axis internal motion sensor and GPS latitude / longitude data"

 

[Jarred Land]

there has been no mention of it or sign of that on either fixed lens or mini primes, and if it was going to be I think they would have told us today.

I think the oled you are referring to is only going to be on the RED Electronic lenses

correct....

 

[Jerrod Cordell]

correcto... and you can use those rings on the normal REDMOTE, Side Handle or the REDMOTE PRO to handle either of the rings (Z,I,F) as well.

So let me see if I've got this right.

The normal Redmote will still have a ring on it to control focus wirelessly?

I have to say I am absolutely IN LOVE with the Redmote Pro, it just might be a hair over my price range so I was wondering if there was a less awesome function on the regular Redmote.

 

[Peter Osinski]

So why can't the Interchangeable Scarlet be offered in the same package as the Fixed? Has this been answered before?

Why does the camera with no lens work out to cost more than the one that comes with a lens? Is there a list that compares the fixed and interchangeable prices differences? First off I'm going to guess the lens isn't the only difference.

Can somebody smarter than me clear this up?

(BTW this is NOT a complaint, I'm very pleased with the announcement)

redmote - 550
side cf module - 500
2.8" screen - 800

thats all 1850 together

then it says redvolt battery. I used to be under the impression you needed the module adapter and the battery module to use batteries if you didn't have the side handle. It seems they have given you the option of putting a redvolt right into the brain. Of course I could be wrong.

That being said 4750 - 1850 =2900 for the cost of a brain+awesome zoom lens + battery

An awesome deal.

the cinema is 2750 which if you add the same accessories (1850) is 4600 and that is before the cost of the battery module (1000 with 2 batts) which brins it to 5600 and the module adapter (300) which brings it to 5900 and then of course a lens (at least 1000 for a good zoom)

6900 for a full functioning camera before media including power with the option of interchangeable lenses rather than 4750 for the fixed.

In my mind the cinema version at this price with these specs allows you more flexibility for adding batteries, of course lenses, and other modules. You are paying for options here.

Also the 4750 fixed is a kit. I am sure they knocked the price down for the kit compared to building your own camera from scratch

 

[Tim Hole]

Is there a big difference between the X-Sync speed between the Scarlet and EPIC? CMOS tend to have lower X-Sync speeds as a rule anyway don't they?

 

[Darren Orange]

Jarred,

Can you please remove the "BOMB" from the side of the EVF. I don't want to even deal with the airports with something labeled "Bomb" on the side of it. AIRPORTS and the word "BOMB" don't mix. Sorry but it will certainly drive a lot of people nuts.

 

[Jarred Land]

So let me see if I've got this right.

The normal Redmote will still have a ring on it to control focus wirelessly?

I have to say I am absolutely IN LOVE with the Redmote Pro, it just might be a hair over my price range so I was wondering if there was a less awesome function on the regular Redmote.

Correct.. there is a rotational ring on the normal redmote, and on the side handle as well, that can be programmed for either function.

 

[Joey Ciccoline]

Would the 2/3 Scarlet with Mini Primes (or even fixed lens for that matter) have depth of field similar to 35mm with larger lenses, or will it be more along the lines of what conventional video cameras with similar sized sensors are capable of?

 

[Travis Freeburg]

This isn't intended to be a downer, but a couple people have said that one of the reasons that they were ok with the price increase of fixed scarlet was because it came with redmote. That was my first reaction too... and then I noticed that redmote is nearly half the price of side handle... Am i missing some features of the sidehandle? Just curious of the cost on that one... or is the redmote just that amazing of a deal?

 

[Peter Osinski]

correct....

correcto... and you can use those rings on the normal REDMOTE, Side Handle or the REDMOTE PRO to handle either of the rings (Z,I,F) as well.

Hey Jarred, I am on a roll, so why not throw me a bone and answer any of these for me that you can

1) how much will the mini pl mount cost ...or at least how much do you expect
2) is the price variance for battery modules have to do with which batteries it comes with?
3) the picture of the redmotepro in the announcement said 4k raw on it. Was that a redmotepro on another model, or is the 2/3" surprise specification from #21 that we now get 4k?
4) I have no intention of buying 2/3" fixed but for shits and giggles how is it that it comes with no side handle or battery module? Does the camera brain for fixed now come with a slot for a single redvolt?
5)what kind of connectors are those exactly on the front of the brains for audio?

thanks man, im trying to find facts and stick to them as much as possible so please help me out

 

[Andrew Crossland]

Wow, I'm absolutely blown away.

Sure wish that there was an "Everything you need" deal for the Scarlet 2/3rds interchangeable like the fixed lense deal.

Andrew Crossland

 

[Scott Webster]

With the time line, does this mean a return to the NAB showfloor for Red? Or will you continue with a separate Red event?

There looks like a lot to take in...

 

[Quentin Brown]

I am 99.9% sure the fixed lens is already servo controlled. You have the option of controlling the ring electronically, and set it to either zoom, focus or iris. I assume when one thing is set you control the others through the redmote or handle

edit: also the mini-primes will be totally manual, Jarred already said this

Thanks Peter.
I don't know why I forgot this. I also don't know why I included the primes in a question about servo zooms. Must be because it's 4 am here.. I need to get over the excitement and get to bed....:blink: :Yawn:

I guess I wanted to know if we had rocker control zoom from a handle like on a B4 mount broadcast lens. And if there was a servo planned to gear into those Primes for autofocus and iris control (possibly attached to the gunner if that is one of it's functions)

Would be nice to get the low down on the gunner too.
And a little picture to swoon over of the complete Scarlet fixed package as it has been announced.

I can't believe that Red have included the redmote in the fixed lens package, I was so sure from their statements that it would be a basic package, just enough to get you shooting, that they would just stick in the handle for control. Very generous if you ask me...
--edit-- Just read someone else's post who got in there whilst I was typing this pointing out that the side handle is more expensive than the Redmote. I'm sure it was going to be cheaper last time round. Is this because it includes a redvolt perhaps? Or are there some cool new features?

When I saw the Redmote Pro listed (before the pictures of it appeared) I was sure that the price difference was because it had a live preview monitoring facility built in. I guess it still could be. No comments on that so far from RED. Seems like a big step in price to just add a control dial for focus pulling(though I'm sure there's more to it than that, I'm too tired to go compare the pro to the standard redmotes in the pictures).

 

[Steven Caesare]

Amazing details.

Jarred, if you are still in an answering mood, can you confirm/expand on the following for the fixed model kit package:

1) What is the attachment method for the battery?
2) No handle is part of the fixed kit?
3) Is the GigE ethernet port on the brain itself?

I assume that all of the other features in the list are part of the brain itself for both models unless otherwise indicated (ie. #4), and NOT indiciative of functionality you need a module for?

Specifically, the LCD in the kit is a touch-focus unit, WiFi built in to brain, REDMote wireless capable, 120(150 burst)FPS, etc...?

Thanks for the info and any answers Jarred (or Jim).

-sc

OK, maybe I asked too many questions in one post.

How about just #1 Jarred... how is the battery attach in the fixed kit?

-sc

 

[Peter Osinski]

This isn't intended to be a downer, but a couple people have said that one of the reasons that they were ok with the price increase of fixed scarlet was because it came with redmote. That was my first reaction too... and then I noticed that redmote is nearly half the price of side handle... Am i missing some features of the sidehandle? Just curious of the cost on that one... or is the redmote just that amazing of a deal?

i think its just amazing, I was bummed when I thought the redmote was going to be much more than the side handle because in no way did I want that. I'm glad how it turned out, I much prefer that type on interface to a handle

 

[Yannick Sadler]

Jarred,

Can you please remove the "BOMB" from the side of the EVF. I don't want to even deal with the airports with something labeled "Bomb" on the side of it. AIRPORTS and the word "BOMB" don't mix. Sorry but it will certainly drive a lot of people nuts.

Like someone who would indeed try to pass through with a real bomb would actually label it :001_tongue: But I totally agree, airport security and customs agents have no sense of humor whatsoever. So I agree with Darren.

 

[Jerrod Cordell]

Jarred,

Can you please remove the "BOMB" from the side of the EVF. I don't want to even deal with the airports with something labeled "Bomb" on the side of it. AIRPORTS and the word "BOMB" don't mix. Sorry but it will certainly drive a lot of people nuts.

Lmao! Best suggestion all night.

Jarred, I have to say that I am VERY pleased with the announcement today. It is pretty much everything I expected. From price to expected delivery dates, it all went over great. These cameras are going to be phenomenal and I cannot wait until I can get my hands on these cameras.

Two things I have to ask though.

When do you think we'll be able to see some footage from the mini-RED Primes. I'd love to see how they compare to the Zeiss DigiPrimes and also the RPPs.

Also, if everything goes well, how about you guys release the 2/3" Scarlet on May 22. Its my birthday and we Jerrods/Jarreds gotta stick together. :thumbup1:

 

[Tim Hole]

Would the 2/3 Scarlet with Mini Primes (or even fixed lens for that matter) have depth of field similar to 35mm with larger lenses, or will it be more along the lines of what conventional video cameras with similar sized sensors are capable of?

Around two stops difference Scarlet 2/3" is comparable to 16mm. Go watch a 16mm film or something shot on F900 (ie. Star Wars EP 1-3) or Battlestar Galactica (better example) and you will see. IMO 2/3" is a beautiful range to have. It easy to get a nice DOF fall off and you its easier to control when man-handling the beast on your own. You get the best of both worlds. Shooting Scarlet wide open would be the same as shooting f4- 5.6 split on 35mm