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November 30th Announcement Feedback

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ScottyC said:
...does my camera really need a GPS sensor? Is this sensor for theft protection, Geo-tagging, or (for the more parnoid people out there) so that Jim could fly in to a shoot in his personal helicopter and check up on your progress? Haha... just kidding on that last part. But what I mean by all this is: maybe I would rather have a bigger sensor and just the basic technology for the same price as the smaller sensor with more features
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GPS chips are not expensive at all! Isuppli.com estimates that the Infineon GPS chip in the iPhone 3GS adds $2.25 to its manufacturing cost.

What would a GPS chip add to a camera?

-geotagging of every frame with time, date, location and altitude
-atomic-clock-precise synchronization of timecode on every camera, anywhere in the world. (You could have 100 Scarletts shooting the Olympic games at 25 different venues separated by miles, traffic and logistics, and they would all use the exact same, subframe accurate time code!)
-with the addition of a compass/accelerometer chip - the camera could tag every frame with the direction the lens is pointing and the tilt angle (crucial for CGI work). With WAAS service, a camera GPS could be accurate enough to know where it was within less than an inch. (effects without tracking marks, handheld CGI plates, reshoots with extreme accuracy).
-contrary to popular belief, GPS is a one-way, receive-only system. You can't track a device that contains a GPS chip unless that device chooses and has the means to broadcast its location out to the world. It sounds like the new cameras will be wifi-enabled, so that communication is a possibility, but they won't be trackable unless someone builds in that capability.

Keep the GPS guys. I'll pay the extra two bucks!
 
I am so stoaked!! Ive been following this forum for over a year now and this is my first post.. Hmmm, fixed or interchangeable?!? Hopefully by release date I'll afford the interchangeable..

One question, would the Nikon mount be able to use Nikon 2/3 and full frame lenses?

Thank you so much everyone at RED :)
 
My camera would need a gps chip. Awesome feature for fast action adventure shows with animated location maps. I'll also pay the extra $2 bucks :)
 
Jarred Land said:
Not electronically controlled.. the Mini Prime Lenses ( and mount ) are manually controlled. The Digital Design refers to the optical design being designed and optimized specifically for our digital sensor and it's pixel pitch and OLPF combination.
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Okay, so the Mini Primes are manual and the Mini PL mount is required for the Mini Primes. So in this case, would there be an advantage to purchasing a touchscreen over the non-touchscreen LCD?
 
Peter Moretti said:
What is "Touch Focus Tracking" and how does it compare w/ auto focus? Thanks much.
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If I remember correctly, you put your finger on the touch screen and the camera will focus on that point. The subject moves, you move your finger with the subject to keep her in focus.
 
Pretty awesome announcement - I really can't wait to get a fixed in my hands! I'm pretty stoked that it comes with a REDMOTE - I wanted one but didn't think I'd end up spending the money on it since I thought it would come with the side handle, so this news is awesome!

Also, I haven't read through the thread yet (I'm at work at the moment) but has there been any details on eligibility for the Scarlet TATTOO program? Sorry if this has already been asked (which is almost certain, I know)...
 
This is all positive news. I'm very happy to see the newly released specs - especially the 1080 at 60fps option which is new and very welcome for quick posting/workflow. You guys at Red must be so stoked by what you've come up with. I know we all are..

Only real dissapointment for me is the reality check of the projected release timeline. I had been hoping for a Jan or Feb release, as unrealistic as that may have been, May is a long time off. I'm sure you are all frustrated to not be able to get those finished cameras out there sooner too, in fact I think you have said as much in the past. Still it's gotta take more work than anyone can imagine to reach thhis level of awesomeness!
 
At the risk of temporarily veering off-topic...

ScottyC said:
Adobe seemed to really help make the RED workflow somewhat seamless (but maybe not flawless) and really streamlined the way R3D footage is edited. Is there any hope in sight that Apple will wise-up and follow suit? Clearly this isn't the RED teams fault in any way, but we all suffer a little bit for this.
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Considering that Final Cut still insists that perfectly good MXF-wrapped footage has to be re-wrapped into Quicktime wrappers, which takes time, doubles your storage space requirements, and prevents you from playing those files on a computer that doesn't have Final Cut installed... I think it's safe to say that Apple's current policy is to only support Quicktime MOVs, and make anyone shooting AVIs, MXFs, or R3Ds jump through extra hoops.
 
will the Tattoo people be working under NDA's? I'm just wondering if we can expect to see testing of the new sensor and kit both here and on their own sites/blogs in the early new year..
 
I think that is called the $2750 Brain only : ) and build as you go...[/QUOTE]

Don't wanna sound like a smarty pants but they do offer a BASE PRODUCTION PACK for RED ONE. Don't see why they can't do the same for Scarlet and Epic.
 
Amazing details.

Jarred, if you are still in an answering mood, can you confirm/expand on the following for the fixed model kit package:

1) What is the attachment method for the battery?
2) No handle is part of the fixed kit?
3) Is the GigE ethernet port on the brain itself?

I assume that all of the other features in the list are part of the brain itself for both models unless otherwise indicated (ie. #4), and NOT indiciative of functionality you need a module for?

Specifically, the LCD in the kit is a touch-focus unit, WiFi built in to brain, REDMote wireless capable, 120(150 burst)FPS, etc...?

Thanks for the info and any answers Jarred (or Jim).

-sc
 
Jarred,

with the mini primes coming out I think it would be important to tell us the cost of the mini pl mount?

You answered me before when I asked if the pl mount came standard and you said yes, is it possible the mini pl will be an option rather than an accessory?

Anyway prices for mounts would be great, specifically

c mount (just in case)
and mini red mount (definitely important)

also, I plan on purchasing 2 pl mount zooms in anticipation of 2/3" cinema. Are you all considering a pl mount to mini pl mount adapter so that we can use normal pl's and mini primes without switching mounts?
 
Brent J. Craig said:
GPS chips are not expensive at all! Isuppli.com estimates that the Infineon GPS chip in the iPhone 3GS adds $2.25 to its manufacturing cost.

What would a GPS chip add to a camera?

-geotagging of every frame with time, date, location and altitude
-atomic-clock-precise synchronization of timecode on every camera, anywhere in the world. (You could have 100 Scarletts shooting the Olympic games at 25 different venues separated by miles, traffic and logistics, and they would all use the exact same, subframe accurate time code!)
-with the addition of a compass/accelerometer chip - the camera could tag every frame with the direction the lens is pointing and the tilt angle (crucial for CGI work). With WAAS service, a camera GPS could be accurate enough to know where it was within less than an inch. (effects without tracking marks, handheld CGI plates, reshoots with extreme accuracy).
-contrary to popular belief, GPS is a one-way, receive-only system. You can't track a device that contains a GPS chip unless that device chooses and has the means to broadcast its location out to the world. It sounds like the new cameras will be wifi-enabled, so that communication is a possibility, but they won't be trackable unless someone builds in that capability.

Keep the GPS guys. I'll pay the extra two bucks!
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All great thoughts I hadn't considered... but maybe Jarred can confirm that the RED's GPS is really going to be able to be used to sync timecode with the GPS and that the accelerometer would be recording such data into the file metadata... or if the GPS is just for Geo-tagging and the accelerometer is just for automatic display adjustment.

If the GPS really could sync the time stamp in the timecode on say three cameras, why would there still be a need for frame overlay (discussed a few posts earlier than this). Just curious... not trying to get off-topic of the awesome news!
 
The announcements have been amazing. Gonna go and look at anther RED now and go to sleep...That would be the RED Dwarf.

Finished my feature script day before yesterday so this weekend has been a high point for me.

Thanks RED for EVERYTHING...

[Feel free to de-noise this post and delete it!]
 
What is the Chinese symbol watermark on the Scarlet 2/3 feature/spec page in the announcement thread?

David
 
I wonder too if the mini-red mount is large enough that a low cost adapter for c-mount lens conversion would be possible, similar to the one for the Bolex bayonet mount. That would be a great accessory if it is possible.
 
David Rasberry said:
I wonder too if the mini-red mount is large enough that a low cost adapter for c-mount lens conversion would be possible, similar to the one for the Bolex bayonet mount. That would be a great accessory if it is possible.
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david, are there other lenses made with a mini pl mount that you know of?

if so when buying my 2 angenieux arri mount zooms would it be possible just to get them converted to mini pl and save myself the trouble of 2 mounts when I can afford the mini primes?
 
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