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November 30th Announcement Feedback

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Ed Ollei said:
friend, if there is a will, there is always a way. get a part time job, work night hours, and i guarantee you, when may/june rolls around, you will easily be able to cover that 25% price increase. i myself have been selling all my non-essential gear to cover the costs of a scarlet configuration.

Red team/Jim, thanks for this great news!
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Too right!

I sympathise, believe me, but with an attitude like that you will get NOWHERE as a filmmaker. Do you think these people who can afford the current Red cameras/workflow do so by some miracle, or some blind luck? No. They have worked HARD to get in a position where they can afford such things, and be in a position to work with such equipment on a daily basis.

And no, I don't own a Red, and won't be able to afford a scarlet for a while. But, I raised $20,000 over the last few years, and I am filming a short film in February set on/in a beautiful location, with a fantastic story/screenplay and actors and also will be using a Red one.

These things don't happen by chance, you have to work relentlessly for it. If you want it enough, it will happen.
 
David Twelves said:
So just to verify, is the 8X Fixed a "fixed" mount, as in you cannot swap out the 8X Lens with an Electronic mount for RED/Nikon/Canon? Or is it just a fixed 8X lens and you can upgrade later? The 8X Fixed kit is awfully tempting, especially if you could just slap on a $500 electronic mount later on...
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If you check out the october 30th announcement thread, you will see a picture of the lens for the 8x fixed scarlet, and it should make it very clear why you will not be able to "swap" out anything when it comes to the glass. That's where the interchangeable model comes in.

Later,
Jason
 
Forgive me if I missed this, or am being blind but is the fixed only available as a kit now rather than the option...
 
I find it funny that many are bitching about the $4750 price for the fixed. You have 7-8 months to save up for the cost difference ( hell I could eBay some junk and old cameras to come up with $2000 easy in 7 months ). How the hell are you going to make a feature length film if $2,000 is a deal breaker? I remember paying $6,000 for two 9 gig hard drives for my Newtek Flyer back in the 90's for christ sake people. 19 gigs of hard-drive...$6,000 on a credit card. Hate to think what it came to total after the cards were paid off lol, not. I didn't think a Redmote would come with the fixed anyway so for all the extra items you are getting it is still a great deal at the current price point. For those who can't afford it you can go out and get a refurbished HV30 for $479 from Canon but please don't sit here and bitch about items you can not afford because in the long run if you minus what comes with the fixed Scarlet, RED only increased the Scarlet Brain by $250 which is nothing for what you are getting. I'm totally stoked : )
 
Can anything on the Fixed Complete Kit be removable? Like the RedMote for example?
 
Jason Ramsey said:
If you check out the october 30th announcement thread, you will see a picture of the lens for the 8x fixed scarlet, and it should make it very clear why you will not be able to "swap" out anything when it comes to the glass. That's where the interchangeable model comes in.

Later,
Jason
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Figured it was worth confirming, just to be 100% sure :biggrin5:
 
i know this may sound like a noob question but i think i might be missing something as alot of people seem very concerned about the fixed lens being fixed. Im assuming lens adapters are going to be an option with the fixed?
 
Tim Hole said:
The technology that is going into the EVF. It is a digital monitoring system afterall.
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It's all about perception I"m sure he wouldn't look twice at a 2009 / 2010 car mint condition for $8000, it's all about our value system.

Funny how we spend more money on rent and living that giving our bodies the care they need.

I say if you make 8k-15k on projects get a EVF, if you aren't in that range hold off.
 
can you pimp the fixed scarlet? getting a bigger LCD or buying the redmote pro for example?
 
Jamie Havill said:
It would seem the fixed ships with everything needed (except CF cards) to shoot right out the box. Why would you want it any other way?
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That's pretty amazing that all that is under $5k...RED has done a tremendous job with the pricing, my hat is off to them (and my wallet, too, haha)!
 
ScottyC said:
So PLEASE don't take this as me being pessimistic, because I LOVE what you guys are doing... but has RED overdone it? Maybe a little?

I mean, I truly enjoy knowing that the camera's quality will be top notch when it's all said and done, but does my camera really need a GPS sensor? Is this sensor for theft protection, Geo-tagging, or (for the more parnoid people out there) so that Jim could fly in to a shoot in his personal helicopter and check up on your progress? Haha... just kidding on that last part. But what I mean by all this is: maybe I would rather have a bigger sensor and just the basic technology for the same price as the smaller sensor with more features... but like I said, please don't think I am being pessimistic. I am still here following the leader! Maybe down the road, features like a GPS could be a customizable option... kind of like upgrading RAM on a computer. Maybe RED's success with this product launch will make this a possibility...
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GPS and the motion sensor/accelerometer chips are so cheap these days and relatively small. It was probably easier for them to build the functionality in than to make yet another box to hang off of the back.

For example, Sparkfun has GPS chipsets starting under $40 http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php?c=4
 
David Twelves said:
I just stuck an "IOU" slip under my Christmas tree with the word "SCARLET!" on it! :001_wub:
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That made me chuckle. I would be sleeping on the couch if I did that and my wife found it, lol. Actually I'm kidding, she is the one who wants the camera.

Although, there is a strip club here that just opened, the name, "Scarlets".
 
jay mannark said:
i know this may sound like a noob question but i think i might be missing something as alot of people seem very concerned about the fixed lens being fixed. Im assuming lens adapters are going to be an option with the fixed?
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yes.. you can use tele/wide extenders on the fixed if you choose. It has a standard 77mm threaded ring on the front to allow.


If that still makes you feel restricted, that is why we also offer the Interchangeable lens version of the 2/3rds Scarlet.
 
Jamie Havill said:
It would seem the fixed ships with everything needed (except CF cards) to shoot right out the box. Why would you want it any other way?
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The only reason is to pay extra for larger EVF. Its the only thing that would be almost superfluous (that I wouldn't add to I mean like battery media etc..) - but having said that I am going to get an interchangeable later on as well so I guess its a mute point. Obviously though if you are paying for everything separately it will cost more than the package so you would probably be halfway to buying a larger LCD anyway.
 
Jarred Land said:
yes.. you can use tele/wide extenders on the fixed if you choose. It has a standard 77mm threaded ring on the front to allow.


If that still makes you feel restricted, that is why we also offer the Interchangeable lens version of the 2/3rds Scarlet.
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Has RED stepped down for the moment on the old tele/wide extender front for the time being Jarred?
 
c-well said:
Do you guys provide leasing for any of this stuff as I would like to make a package and pay for it like I would a car.
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We have our hands full making cameras so we leave the leasing to the professionals.. there are many Leasing companies that have special RED package options and I am sure there will be even more when it comes close to shipping.
 
Tim Hole said:
Forgive me if I missed this, or am being blind but is the fixed only available as a kit now rather than the option...
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Blind. "Body only $2750" ;)
 
Jarred Land said:
absolutely.. thats kinda the whole Idea behind the modular DSMC program :)
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Just to clarify, as I think this is what people are asking specifically... does this mean, if someone wanted the 5" LCD instead of the 2.8", they would just pay the difference and "upgrade" that particular module on their fixed kit?

later,
Jason
 
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