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No Audio on Scarlet with rode videomic

jimhare said:
Pretty sure they decided not to have phantom power at all in the Epic/Scarlet.
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You'd think they'd take it off page 155 of the Scarlet manual if they made a call like this. People are expecting it and it could affect their purchasing decisions.

Scarlet manual said:
Each microphone input supports +48V @ 10mA Phantom Power as a user selectable option.
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IMHO that's just a firmware thing. But there are good solutions for feeding phantom externally, we use one from Kortwich in Berlin.
 
Charlie_Grinnell said:
Can you state which ends male and which is female? Trying o figure this out with both my cameras right now...
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It goes from the 2 stripe mini jack to a 1 stripe. It seems to fix it. But now i am getting weird noise. I Think it is just the fan buzz. I will do some more testing in the morning and post. Does anyone know how to shoot for longer than 15 minutes without the fan going to 100%? It really does not help audio recording in a doco scenareo, which is why i bought this camera. I dont not want to have to boom mic every shot. My computer can heat to 60c + before overheating. Why does a red only get to 40 before going nuts? Considering the outside temperature is sometimes 40c here. I have never had this much fan noise with a R1
 
Greg Blakey said:
It goes from the 2 stripe mini jack to a 1 stripe. It seems to fix it. But now i am getting weird noise. I Think it is just the fan buzz. I will do some more testing in the morning and post. Does anyone know how to shoot for longer than 15 minutes without the fan going to 100%? It really does not help audio recording in a doco scenareo, which is why i bought this camera. I dont not want to have to boom mic every shot. My computer can heat to 60c + before overheating. Why does a red only get to 40 before going nuts? Considering the outside temperature is sometimes 40c here. I have never had this much fan noise with a R1
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Thanks for the info, excited to see the tests.
 
Stuart English said:
Not true. It's temporarily disabled in the firmware.
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Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Stuart. Having phantom power enabled will really 'complete' Scarlet for me, I'm looking forward to it. In the meantime we'll try to exercise patience and stop bugging you guys about it!
 
i am sure this has been answered before, but i am currently using a Rode NTG2 (yes it has power) as a scratch mic and it works great. i just had to enable audio in the menu. I struggled for a while trying to understand what would/would not work for audio.
 
I did my first commercial shoot yesterday with a Scarlet-X. As an FYI, I've owned a recording studio and have been a music producer for years before turning to cinematography, so I know audio and have equipment that most here wouldn't to reference/mix/master audio files.

During the shoot, the audio was fed to the camera by a Sound Devices MixPre-D field mixer (xlr out to mini mic 1 jack) with a Rode NTG3 shotgun mic. I usually back up everything, so I had the MixPre-D send another audio feed to a Zoom H2n's line input jack (so to be clear, I'm not using the H2n's preamps but the Sound Devices MixPre-D preamps which are much better and cleaner). I've done this many times with multiple HDSLRs with stellar results.

Let me just say that I am GLAD I had a backup for this shoot. For some reason, the Scarlet-X audio files have a noticeable pulsating hum in the background whereas the H2n .wav files are pristine. I spent about 2 hours on set changing settings on the Scarlet-X to no avail. At first I thought it was the fan noise being too close to the Rode NTG3, but then when comparing the files captured by the Zoom, these didn't have this noise, so it seemed like an internal camera issue causing this hum. To clarify, the hum is not loud, but it is noticeable.


Unless someone can pinpoint something I'm doing wrong, these built in audio/mic jacks and their respective preamps in the Scarlet-Xs are sub-standard imho, and should not be your primary capturing device for commercial audio.
 
Hi Greg, I was also trying to figure out how to get some basic audio into the camera without going crazy with various attachments and or equipment. Basically I wanted to see if I could just run with some of the stuff that I used with my DSLR. I also have a Rode Videomic, and that's why your post caught my attention.

So here is what I did. I went to radio shack and picked up a 1/8" stereo to 1/8" mono adapter and plugged my Rode Videomic into it. Then I built a little bracket that attaches to the top of the scarlet (held in place by the screws that hold the monitor) and allows the videomic to be mounted off to the side a bit away from the camera itself.

JeffsAudio.jpg


Granted it's not perfect, but it works for run and gun shots and or just want reference audio.
 
Thanks for that jeff!

I didnt see this reply until now. I also modified mine using the top handle. I got a dumb hot shoe mount from B&H and screwed a 1/4 inch thread in. Works a treat.

Thanks again
 
Jeff Lower said:
Hi Greg, I was also trying to figure out how to get some basic audio into the camera without going crazy with various attachments and or equipment. Basically I wanted to see if I could just run with some of the stuff that I used with my DSLR. I also have a Rode Videomic, and that's why your post caught my attention.

So here is what I did. I went to radio shack and picked up a 1/8" stereo to 1/8" mono adapter and plugged my Rode Videomic into it. Then I built a little bracket that attaches to the top of the scarlet (held in place by the screws that hold the monitor) and allows the videomic to be mounted off to the side a bit away from the camera itself.

JeffsAudio.jpg


Granted it's not perfect, but it works for run and gun shots and or just want reference audio.
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Thanks for sharing, Jeff! Great invention.
 
Hi Marcos, I have found that if you don't set the Epic's level to 30dB will get this "rotating, pulsating, electronic" sound. Very frustrating but for the moment I'm getting good results. I miss the Red One's audio, which was bulletproof. I'm sure we'll get there, took a while for the R1 as well.

Marcos Montenegro said:
I did my first commercial shoot yesterday with a Scarlet-X. As an FYI, I've owned a recording studio and have been a music producer for years before turning to cinematography, so I know audio and have equipment that most here wouldn't to reference/mix/master audio files.

During the shoot, the audio was fed to the camera by a Sound Devices MixPre-D field mixer (xlr out to mini mic 1 jack) with a Rode NTG3 shotgun mic. I usually back up everything, so I had the MixPre-D send another audio feed to a Zoom H2n's line input jack (so to be clear, I'm not using the H2n's preamps but the Sound Devices MixPre-D preamps which are much better and cleaner). I've done this many times with multiple HDSLRs with stellar results.

Let me just say that I am GLAD I had a backup for this shoot. For some reason, the Scarlet-X audio files have a noticeable pulsating hum in the background whereas the H2n .wav files are pristine. I spent about 2 hours on set changing settings on the Scarlet-X to no avail. At first I thought it was the fan noise being too close to the Rode NTG3, but then when comparing the files captured by the Zoom, these didn't have this noise, so it seemed like an internal camera issue causing this hum. To clarify, the hum is not loud, but it is noticeable.


Unless someone can pinpoint something I'm doing wrong, these built in audio/mic jacks and their respective preamps in the Scarlet-Xs are sub-standard imho, and should not be your primary capturing device for commercial audio.
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I tried doing this for audio...in camera the settings work.

I can hear the audio fine, I'm using my Sennheiser mke400

But in Redcinex when I pay the clip, there is no audio..how can i tell if the reference audio worked?

Or do I need to use premiere pro? Im a FCP7 user so I help there is a work around so I can hear my audio

Appreciate the help! ;)
 
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