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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

New Zeiss Compact Primes preview...

I see. It makes sense the way you put it Evin. Thanks. Just to clarify, by no means do I consider the compacts "thrown together". CA or not there are decades of knowledge put into them.

So this type of CA visible on the 28mm, which is supposed to be one of their better lenses... how manageable is it?

I've tried correcting CA in Photoshop various times, but I just grab the dials and move them while taking a close look at what they do under tons of magnification. Some times it works and it goes away almost completely, some times there is no dial that can make it go away.

Also, I remember that faster non-macro 50mm shot which showed insane amounts of CA, but I would seem with T2.1 that they are using the glass from the "slower" macro 50mm which is a different beast.
 
Here's a 5 min fix I did in photoshop...
CAfix.jpg


I used two tools (no painting) just the lateral CA fix in the lens correction filter and a very narrow range global desaturation of the slight purple tone. The blue in the rest of the watch was not affected. I'm not an AE guy but I think both of these tools are available in CS4.
 
Slick as a whistle. Not perfect but I guess you can get it 100% clean with a little more time.
If only RED Cine had them built in so you could fix them right there. Could it be automated or would the settings need to be applied on a shot by shot basis?
 
Yes, the program wouldn't have a way to detect this.

Technically, could they be fixed with the same settings or would they have to be done one by one anyway?
 
Evin Grant said:
Here's a 5 min fix I did in photoshop...

I used two tools (no painting) just the lateral CA fix in the lens correction filter and a very narrow range global desaturation of the slight purple tone. The blue in the rest of the watch was not affected. I'm not an AE guy but I think both of these tools are available in CS4.
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Ervin why, on god sakes, you thing that anyone would buy a 40K lens set and expect to clean on every shoot CA with after effect?

The lenses are good for low cost (below 12K) but with 40K I can buy two RED Pro sets... or I can buy the Optars or much better the 1.3 Elites MKIII which they are beautiful... ask Weirdcrew for that... they are like Cookes S4... Or even to make a set of the anamorphic Elites...

In the Zeiss set the bad ones are 25mm, 50mm, 85mm... so if you see that CA with 28mm which is quite decent, then with the others you have to stop down to F4 to be JUST acceptable...

To much arrogance, with this market mix, is a recipe to corporate suicide...

This applies for ARRI, Cooke, P+S, Zeiss, Sony, Fujinon etc...

Ervin, nothing personal...
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
So would a lot of you agree that this might be a last minute way to throw something into the game before too much of NAB09 money gets spent?
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They saw what I was doing to their ZF lenses and wanted to take a crack at it.
Except, they went the whole nine yards. Good for them.
 
Imho

Imho

I was teching a low budget feature last week that was using the ZFs. They are plenty sharp and since the finish is monochrome what little CA there is will be pretty hard to pick out even if you're looking for it.

The bottom line is that the lens market is in serious upheaval and Zeiss is trying to adapt and survive. I share the perception that the compact primes are a tough value proposition - will the Zeiss name and the terrific ergonomics be enough to justify their cost? Maybe, but how much of the market lives in that middle ground? Low budget indies and owner/ops might flinch at the cost and the folks that rent will likely stay with the higher end UPs, MPs, S4s, Optimos, etc.

The real wild card is the RPPs. If they are as good as advertised (particularly WFO where the grip package starved indies find themselves far too often), if Jim can undercut on price and deliver in quantity then the Red Pro Primes should clean house - Zeiss prestige notwithstanding.
 
Blair S. Paulsen said:
ERRRR, I think its Evin.

BTW, do you pronounce your name Evan-jealous?

I kid, I kid. :beer:
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Thats a good one... :) hahaha... nothing to jealous about...:thumbsup: for lens am a client...

I totally agree with you... am a bit more straight and bland...
 
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