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NEW RED LENSES...

Mark Toia

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To RED...

I'm about to get into a LENS buying splurge... But before I do, I thought I'd better ask you (RED) if you guys are bringing out any new lenses in the future.

Reason for my splurge is that the 5k format (even though I love it) has killed a few of my wide angles due to vignetting... Such is life, But I'd like to change lenses than go back to 4k to fix the problem. And I like to have a set with the same dimension fronts.

I'm a PL man through and through, but I'm starting to drag the CANON glass out, especially for the wider stuff. But to be honest, even though the glass itself is good, the manual focusing on those lenses are a disaster. The 6k coverage they have is a major plus though and not to mention the price being very cheap! . But when it comes to focus pulling... PL glass reins supreme.

I rate the RED PRIMES and RED ZOOMS as the sharpest cleanest lenses every made... But I really would like something alot lighter and brighter with a F1.2 or 1.3 f stop.

So my question is, Are you guys going to be making light weight, bright PRIMES in the near future ? If so... I will be first cab of the rank as your current PRIMES are proof of your lens quality. If not... then so be it, but I have to ask...

We have the RED ZOOMS as well with the 50 to 150 being the sharpest ZOOM lens we own. Then 18 to 85 is just way to big and heavy for what it does.. Impressive lens optically, but just to big. I'd expect it to be a 25 to 250 at that size..

What we love about the 50 to 150 (and the 18 to 50) is it's light waight and the F2.8 stop. ... Discontinued for some reason, but would love to know if you will replace it with an equally small and light Lens of the same focal range in the future.

Thanks RED.
Look forward to your reply.

(Love my Epic's by the way)
 
I seem to remember seeing a fairly recent mention of anamorphics again, though I don't remember when. I'll search Jarred and edit back...

Searching Jannard too... So far no luck.
 
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My guess would be that if you need lenses anytime soon, buy another brand. Given the complexity of producing lenses, even if Red released a new set today, it would instantly go into backorder and probably stay there for a year. I was in the same predicament as you and finally this week just dropped a lot of money on a complete set of Canon L-Series glass. Now if only my Canon mount would just ship...
 
Mark
I'm going to second this question. It seems that with the smaller form factor, it would be wonderful to see a smaller lighter set of RED glass.

I don't know if it is even possible, but maybe the tech that went into the RED mini primes could be ported into a set of RED compact primes.

Having some of that older glass rehoused may not be a bad idea for pulling focus.

Nice thread start. :)

David
 
mini primes for scarlet and epic would be sick
 
I'm sure you all realize this, but just to quell any misconceptions, the Red mini-primes could be mini because they only had to cover a 2/3" sensor. I would also love to see some Red primes that don't double the weight of my camera, but I don't think they will ever be "mini".
 
Julio Quintana said:
I'm sure you all realize this, but just to quell any misconceptions, the Red mini-primes could be mini because they only had to cover a 2/3" sensor. I would also love to see some Red primes that don't double the weight of my camera, but I don't think they will ever be "mini".
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Red Compact Primes then...
 
Mark, I think the Red Electronic lenses may be your cup-o-tea.
I would expect zooms first. I would not expect primes but you never know...
They should be reasonably light weight and a Pro product, so a little chunky.
Focus electronically for motion with the Red Pro Remote controller,
smoothness TBD but at least as good as a Birger mount (count on much better),
The trick is to have decent manual feel as well....not easy if you want a fast auto focus.
99% likely to be f2.8/T3 and cover the typical ranges as used by Nik/Can etc
I will bet my britches on FF coverage for Dragon compatibility....

and count on much drool....
 
Julio Quintana said:
My guess would be that if you need lenses anytime soon, buy another brand. Given the complexity of producing lenses, even if Red released a new set today, it would instantly go into backorder and probably stay there for a year.

Now if only my Canon mount would just ship...
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Your Probably right about the Back oder if it happens because they would be extremely popular!...

I have a lot of glass here, I'm about to do a big sell up and a clean out... swap some stuff over etc. Trying to simplify my gear room, it's just boxes everywhere!

Was hoping RED would say YES or NO... That would make me either wait for it... or just buy new lenses to suite 5k + for EPIC and up coming Dragon.

I've got all the Canon L series glass from 8m to 600mm... But that Manual focus system is just bad, unless the RED EPIC starts to automatically pull focus (with canon glass) in a suitable manner... then Ill stick with it for sure.

The Iluminas seem to be the only Glass suitable at the moment that is light and bright... But I need to test them all before I buy. FRED... I have tested the old set (and own an old set) but I do have issues with vignetting still on the 18mm... I'm hoping your new model has solved this. but only a real world test will help me make a decision.

If you send me a set (including the 135mm) , I'll do a proper test and post results here... and if good, ill purchase off you there and then.. If not Ill send them back to you the next day in perfect order. :) and wont say a word online...

Hoping RED will answer... yes or no, so I can make a decision to wait or not.

Thanks for your input guys.
 
Hey Mark,

We're going to be testing the new version of the Illuminas -- along with a lot of other glass -- a week from today and posting the results broadly. Just a heads up.

Regards,
Paul
 
Will the uniQoptics T1.9 primes be included in the test. I think there widest lens the 18mm will cover 5K .
 
paul engstrom said:
Hey Mark,

We're going to be testing the new version of the Illuminas -- along with a lot of other glass -- a week from today and posting the results broadly. Just a heads up.

Regards,
Paul
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That's great Paul! Keep me posted.
5k + on those wides is all I'm after.
F1.2 t1.3 are my gravy :))

1.8s are not on my radar.
Cheers mate
 
I hope we see the new RED Lenses before Dragon appears but I'm also assuming they won't be small since they did speak about electronic but it would be cool to have them offered in two flavors, a Compact Prime sized T1.3 set and Electronic Primes...
The zoom if it was electronic would be killer awesome but I'm looking forward to the prime set...

They'll be backordered until forever...
 
Mark Toia said:
F1.2 t1.3 are my gravy :))

1.8s are not on my radar.
Cheers mate
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In the currently state of the economy it makes sense to invest into things that hold value for some time.

If you have money to spent I would get a set of used Master Primes. Currently there are some offerings around.

Owning myself good PL glass I rent MPs for TVCs when I need the sharp look at low t-stops. A medium-close shot with an 18mm MP at T 1.3 is an unique experience. In the rather unlikely event that RED is going to develop T 1.3 primes you will sell the MP-set with hardly any loss. Until then you will earn money.

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Currently I'm in the market of a small, short PL-zoom. I recently shot a promo with the Angenieux 15-40 and was pleased with the flares is produces on the M. Last time I had it was 5 years ago on a 235 and I found it rather boring. Interesting how perception changes. I'm going to test the cheaper brother (16-42) and see wether this will suite my needs.

Hans
 
would also love red to bring back the 50-150, think there is enough demand for that. Any plans for that red?
 
i have the cooke cxx.
it vignettes when shooting in 5K FF at 15mm. its heavy.
but i shoot cinestyle and in scope (2:1) and there its perfect with T2.

Mark, you are talking about the Leica's. They are expensive, but probably you will be able to shoot with them until you retire sometime 2040.
 
Julio Quintana said:
I'm sure you all realize this, but just to quell any misconceptions, the Red mini-primes could be mini because they only had to cover a 2/3" sensor. I would also love to see some Red primes that don't double the weight of my camera, but I don't think they will ever be "mini".
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Thanks Julio. I know the mini primes would only cover 2/3 but maybe the tech and RD could be ported into a new set of RED compact primes.

That was my point ( just for clarity)

I've heard great things about the illuminas. When I first saw a set back in 2008 or 09 they were pretty impressive for optics build quality and price performance.
 
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