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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

New pic...

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Gibby said:
Soderbergh will be shooting 4k REDCODE RAW, recorded to Compact Flash. He'll also be using the RED 18-50 CF zoom, and many RED accessories.
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That is what I am talking about!!! That's is great news. When are they going to shoot a feature of this caliber on P2?

This is really, really good news. That is a huge statement about how good the compression algorithm is.

David
 
Alexander Nikishin said:
Why would you pan with the side grips when there's already something invented for just that purpose, the tripod head's pan bar...?

Not to mention, if you panned from the sides, you'd most likely be blocking the focus pullers view as well.
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Did you happen to see where the other grip is on the back view of the RED. The shot is on the front page of red.com ... It was cool to see that is exactly where I though tit would be.

David
 
battistella said:
Did you happen to see where the other grip is on the back view of the RED. The shot is on the front page of red.com ... It was cool to see that is exactly where I though tit would be.

David
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And remember... you can always put the grips [and pretty much any other accessory] wherever you want it.
 
battistella said:
Did you happen to see where the other grip is on the back view of the RED. The shot is on the front page of red.com ... It was cool to see that is exactly where I though tit would be.

David
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I still don't see a reason to abandon the pan bar.

It always has been the best way to operate.

The pan bar is directly mounted to the head, and comes in two's if you'd like.

Now, if the RED is on a gear head, the side grips are pointless anyway.

I just don't see the use for the side grips aside from mounting points, which there aren't many of on the side grips.

This configuration on the other hand has tons of mounting points and will be a lighter setup as well.



The only real use I see for the grips are for what they were originally designed to do, give the operator a front-bottom rail mounted handheld configuration.

I'm sure people will find creative ways to use them, but in the end, remember that %99 of the time a camera is mounted on a gear head, fluid head, jib/crane, steadicam, or in a shoulder mounted hand-held configuration. So side grip operating is a niche feature as far as I'm concerned.
 
Alexander Nikishin said:
I still don't see a reason to abandon the pan bar.

It always has been the best way to operate.

The pan bar is directly mounted to the head, and comes in two's if you'd like.

Now, if the RED is on a gear head, the side grips are pointless anyway.

I just don't see the use for the side grips aside from mounting points, which there aren't many of on the side grips.

This configuration on the other hand has tons of mounting points and will be a lighter setup as well.



The only real use I see for the grips are for what they were originally designed to do, give the operator a front-bottom rail mounted handheld configuration.

I'm sure people will find creative ways to use them, but in the end, remember that %99 of the time a camera is mounted on a gear head, fluid head, jib/crane, steadicam, or in a shoulder mounted hand-held configuration. So side grip operating is a niche feature as far as I'm concerned.
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I totally see your point and it is valid. This will be one of the benifits of the modular design. People will configure the camera for what ever need arises.

David
 
Alexander,
I see your point, but I shot a ten minute short that was 5 percent tripod, 95 percent fig rig. Yes this is not the norm, but it allowed for many interesting angles: 8 inches off the ground pan shots, the camera two feet over my head following, 15 feet up in a tree, etc. Shoulder mount is cool, but most interesting shots are not shot from the natural human eye level in my opinion, unless its a really good pov shot.

EDIT: As far as the 8 inch off the ground shots are concerned, I highly recommend the Miller Solo ENG sticks. I just got some a couple months ago and they are amazing. They go way down to the ground and way over my head (I'm 6'2''). The 100mm bowl version should be nice for the Red. I think they support around 65 lbs.
 
So I'm sitting on set today, reading through the AC's magazines on the camera cart... when I find this shot from Transformers.

Forgive the photo - it was taken with my phone - but I guess these setups do happen...

[isn't the expression on the operator's face absolutely priceless?]
 
Great photo - thanks Brook. Here's a couple more pics of similar setups from a mag article on Battlestar Galactica. Although these are not quite the same as the Setup in your photo. (low quality pics as well).

Can't wait to see what kind of creative Setups the modular design of RED will encourage.
 
Brook Willard said:
So I'm sitting on set today, reading through the AC's magazines on the camera cart... when I find this shot from Transformers.

Forgive the photo - it was taken with my phone - but I guess these setups do happen...

[isn't the expression on the operator's face absolutely priceless?]
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Looking at that photo, I realize there are times where I wish I was a bit taller
or a bit smaller for walking hand-held shots. This set-up should cover a bit
lower than my shoulder shots very nice. Plus, Red being pretty light weight,
I won't get as much tired as with some other cameras either. Exciting.
 
Casey Green said:
Great photo - thanks Brook. Here's a couple more pics of similar setups from a mag article on Battlestar Galactica. (low quality pics as well).

Can't wait to see what kind of creative Setups the modular design of RED will encourage.
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Those setups are much different from the Transformers hand-held configuration.

As you can see, the Battlestar operator is shooting the old fashioned way using shoulder mounted front-end handgrips, whereas the Transformers team is using a setup quite similar to that of the RED sidegrips, somewhat fig rig-esque.

Brooke, the day I posted that comment I fianlly looked into my AC and saw that setup, it's as if the operator saw what RED was doing. :sarcasm:
 
Well, the next time I'm running through a street in LA trying to dodge explosions and debris with a really extreme look on my face... I'll be sure to rig up the camera just like this.
 
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