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New Mac Pro rumors

I fear the Mac pro is dead completely. Sandy bridge xeons have been out since October. Ivy bridge xeons will not ship any time soon. I just don't see any more happening. This is of course just speculation.
 
Thanks, but this thread is in search of NEW rumors... Preferably informed rumors, as opposed to opinions.

Thomas Koch said:
I fear the Mac pro is dead completely. Sandy bridge xeons have been out since October. Ivy bridge xeons will not ship any time soon. I just don't see any more happening. This is of course just speculation.
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Thomas Koch said:
I fear the Mac pro is dead completely. Sandy bridge xeons have been out since October. Ivy bridge xeons will not ship any time soon. I just don't see any more happening. This is of course just speculation.
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Fear is good ;) Gives most of us hope :)
 
Scott Crawley said:
Thanks, but this thread is in search of NEW rumors... Preferably informed rumors, as opposed to opinions.
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There really are no concrete rumors but you can probably expect something either at the end of this year (using the Apple/Intel early release arrangement they have going) or early next year as that will bring significantly improved Thunderbolt as well as a new architecture, Haswell.
 
L. Langer said:
There really are no concrete rumors but you can probably expect something either at the end of this year (using the Apple/Intel early release arrangement they have going) or early next year as that will bring significantly improved Thunderbolt as well as a new architecture, Haswell.
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I feel that the longer they wait, the less need there is for them to deliver a MacPro replacement as we know it today. Now there certainly may be a new Mac of some kind, but whether it meets the term Pro could very well spur the same debates as to whether FCPX is pro or not, and where the answer is always; "it depends."


Michael
 
Thomas Koch said:
I fear the Mac pro is dead completely. Sandy bridge xeons have been out since October
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No. Sandy Bridge i7 CPUs have been out since October. Sandy Bridge E5-2600 series Xeons shipped to OEMs on March 30. HP only started delivering their first E5-2600 systems last week. Dell just announced their new T7600 workstation based on them last friday. It's not even available to order yet. Too bad, because it looks better than the HP Z820 that I have on order due to ship today or tomorrow. Some of us are also trying to build some of these workstations ourselves. I have two new SuperMicro X9DAi boards here, which are hard to find as it is... I can't even get the DDR3 ECC 1600MHz RAM to install in these boards. I cut my RAM quantity in half on my HP order because they're using CAS-11 under-spec'd RAM due to the ideal stuff not being in the channel yet.

Sandy Bridge CPUs, both desktop and Xeon, were delayed significantly due to chipset production issues.

. Ivy bridge xeons will not ship any time soon. I just don't see any more happening. This is of course just speculation.
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Ivy Bridge Xeons will use the same C6xx series chipsets and socket implementation (LGA-2011) as Sandy Bridge and most current motherboards starting to ship now will be compatible with nothing more than a BIOS / EFI update.

Intel has said that the Sandy Bridge and associated chipset delay has not affected their CPU roadmap. If that is indeed true, we can expect Ivy Bridge Xeons to begin shipping late this year. Engineering samples are already circulating and have been for some time.

If Apple discontinues the Mac Pro, it will be the first time in their history that they have EOL'd one of their "pro" offerings without an official announcement and many months notice that they would be doing so. Then again, we've been seeing a lot of firsts at Apple. Anyway, let's not forget all the hardware references and support in the developer seeds of OSX for components (mostly GPUs and chipset support) that would only be found on a new Mac Pro. I'm not sure how it's going to play out, but I have a hunch that the next Mac Pro may not arrive until OSX Mountain Lion ships later this year. And I wouldn't be surprised if Apple pulls a rabbit out of their hat and is the first to market with an Ivy Bridge Xeon workstation... Similar to the stunt they pulled in 2008 when they were not only the first to ship the new Xeon CPUs (HP was first to announce, Apple first to ship), but they also had a 30-day exclusive with in Intel for the 3GHz quad-core CPUs. Yes, that last part is speculative too... only Apple knows when their next entry to the Mac Pro line will start shipping.

Having two partially built new Xeon boxes sitting here and an HP Z820 workstation on order and facing some form of "no comment" delay according to my order status, combined with Ivy Bridge Xeons looming over us in about 6 to 8 months, I'm not so sure I'd race out to buy another Sandy Bridge Xeon system just yet. If Apple does release one, great! But I think many at this point who follow Intel's progress will be inclined to wait for Ivy Bridge regardless. Which should be an incremental CPU bump as we saw with the the 2009 to 2010 Mac Pro transition.
 
MichaelP said:
I feel that the longer they wait, the less need there is for them to deliver a MacPro replacement as we know it today. Now there certainly may be a new Mac of some kind, but whether it meets the term Pro could very well spur the same debates as to whether FCPX is pro or not, and where the answer is always; "it depends."
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If Apple releases another Mac Pro that's essentially the same as the current (decade-old) design, they would be doing us all a disservice. I love the build quality and it has some classic design aesthetics, but it's functionally stale and not in line with where the rest of the pro workstation industry has headed. It's almost trapped in some kind of no-man's-land where it's not a seriously powerful workstation design, but it's too big for most users who need more than an iMac. Time will tell, but I'm expecting a more compact Mac Pro, still dual-CPU capable, but more streamlined, rack-mountable...

Bob Gundu said:
LOL... Jeff, how many times have you speculated on the MacPro roadmap?
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Not many... I kinda feel like I keep saying the same thing. haha.
 
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