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Read for weeks, threads here on RedUser, other forums, blogs, videos, you get it.

I got the Zeiss Otus lineup and am really happy with it, also use some Canon tele glass, so im standing by my EF-mount.

I need a good wide angle lens that won´t look like crap compared to the Otus glass.

Found this: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showth...reat-wide-angle-Lens-option-for-Weapon-6K-WTF

The distagon is a strong contender, im a little curious about the Zeiss CP3 but having a hard time finding anything about them.

Thinking of going for a 15mm but been looking at 18mm as well, had a Zeiss distagon 15 *T 2.8 ZE that I bought from a store selling used glass, unfortunately it makes a click sound when focusing and rattles when beeing shaked. Been in contact with Zeiss and its not good, so I will not keep it.

Big thanks for your time and help!
 
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Sounds like you're on EF, in this specific case I'd aim towards the Sigma Art Series. Only thing that comes close to Otus in those mounts basically and a somewhat similar look.

If you're aiming at ultra-wide like that though, speed is going to be the tough one. The newer Zeiss Milvus 15mm is pretty good. Sigma 14mm is also pretty good. If you're looking for slightly wider and don't mind breathing, maybe the Laowa 12mm.
 
Thanks Phil!

Been looking at your SALT VV, what is your opinion on the Zeiss CP3 18mm? I thought it looked really good, handling the corners pretty sweet.
 
CP.3's main strength is their size and weight, they are the lightest PL mount stuff out there that covers FF35/VV. The 18mm is a newer design and pretty good actually. The biggest issue with the wider CP.3s is the speed. Take like the Sigma 20mm T1.5, it's 3.7lbs, the CP.3 18mm T2.9 is 1.9lbs and about two stops slower.

But that's one of those pros and cons sort of things. Like if I was primarily shooting gimbal, the CP.3 is sort of a no brainer. If I needed T1.5 or the ability to see into the dark, the Sigma is a better way to go in this case. And I happily use heavier glass than that even.
 
I really like my Zeiss CP.2 15mm T2.9. The current CP.3 version is the same but they have the optional eXtended Data stuff with the CP.3 lenses. The new CP.3 variant of their 18mm is also really good at T2.9. Previous CP.2 and earlier 18mm offerings were mediocre at best. If you want to go faster than T2.9 then like Phil says there’s the Sigma 20mm. Schneider offers their Xenon FF 18mm lens with a T2.4 aperture. I had the Xenon primes for a while but ultimately had to cut down my glass library and let them go as the 18mm was long delayed, therefore don’t have much experience with their 18mm...
 
Really into the CP3 18, think I will go for it!

Good points in the versatility of form factor of the CP3´s, really compact, light and short. Will probably go for the Duclos CineMod with 95mm front for the Otus glass as well, Misfit Atom and a small V-lock.
 
I've been using the Sigma ART series. The 20mm is a fast (f/1.4), full frame prime. I also use the Sigma ART 24-35 f/2. These are some of the highest quality lenses I've ever used. Sigma also has a full-frame prime, 14mm ART, with a f/1.8.
 
Heard and read lots of good things about Sigma ART, feels a little strange for middle age men like myself coming from times when Sigma was the "budget" alternative. But looking at results and prices climbing things are changing like everything else in the world.

I made the dicision and ordered the Zeiss CP3 18 2.9 EF, looking forward getting this glass!
 
I totally forgot about the Sigma ART lenses. Have not used them, but I keep hearing good things...
 
My Otus set is my go-to. I've had a Tokina 11-16 sitting around since before I got the Otuses and been using it whenever I need a wide, and I have to say, it always felt like it matched pretty wonderfully. And now they have it in 11-20, which really covers the wide end well.

I asked the Zeiss guy at a booth once when they'll be coming out with an Otus 18mm. He replied "Never, b/c you can't improve on the optics of the Milivus 18."

I absolutely love the Sigma Art series. Anyone shooting on Canon L's is doing themselves a disservice. They have all the sharpness and cinematic look of the Otuses. The only thing is they have just a little more chromatic aberration, and in my experience, the slightest green cast. (But I've never heard that anywhere else, so could've been the lenses I was testing?) I took some test photos here: https://www.magicgoggles.com/lens-shootout/ The 14-24 could be a nice match for the Otuses.
 
joshua csehak said:
My Otus set is my go-to. I've had a Tokina 11-16 sitting around since before I got the Otuses and been using it whenever I need a wide, and I have to say, it always felt like it matched pretty wonderfully. And now they have it in 11-20, which really covers the wide end well.
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I have my Tokina 11-16. One in PL (Duclos mod) and one in EF. Love that lens.

I asked the Zeiss guy at a booth once when they'll be coming out with an Otus 18mm. He replied "Never, b/c you can't improve on the optics of the Milivus 18."
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Heh. Fair enough... However, by that logic, the Otus set should not exist at all then when the Milvus does the job. And yes, I think the Milvus and Otus lenses are the same optics, just different housings and marketing.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
I have my Tokina 11-16. One in PL (Duclos mod) and one in EF. Love that lens.



Heh. Fair enough... However, by that logic, the Otus set should not exist at all then when the Milvus does the job. And yes, I think the Milvus and Otus lenses are the same optics, just different housings and marketing.
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The 85's look different

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/MTF.aspx?Lens=957&FLI=0&LensComp=1000&FLIComp=0

Tokina 11..20's are good enough for us (you need a lenshood or matebox, outside it flares easily).
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Heh. Fair enough... However, by that logic, the Otus set should not exist at all then when the Milvus does the job. And yes, I think the Milvus and Otus lenses are the same optics, just different housings and marketing.
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Well they claim the Otuses are a completely new from-the-ground-up optical design, but how much of that shows up in real life I guess is a different story. I'd be curious to see some comparisons.
 
I use both the 15mm and 18mm CP3s and they are both solid lenses. Both lenses get a little soft when shooting wide open but they have a nice contrast to them and they are a pleasure to use.
 
Still waiting for my CP3 18, for the moment Swedish post services sent the package to the wrong part of the country! Kind of like seeing Santa passing the house, not only going to the neighbor but the wrong town!
 
Anyone have experience with the Canon CN-E 14mm / T3.1? Not the fastest WA lens out there but its supposed to be sharp, very rectilinear, 11-blade rounded iris, etc.). I already have the Canon CN-E 24mm / T1.5, 50mm / T1.5 , & 85mm / T1.3 so I am thinking it makes the most sense to stick with my existing set for consistent color and matching. However I have been really eyeing the new Sigma 14mm T2 Cine Prime and have been throwing around the idea of selling the Canon CN-E's and replacing them with a set of their equivalent focal lengths in the Sigma Cine series. I absolutely love my Canon Cine primes as they have been great to me and I have been very happy with their performance on Gemini, but as you all know its hard not to eye up other glass. Does anyone have experience with both sets of lenses on Gemini / Helium sensors or comparable?
 
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