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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

NAB13- RED MOTION MOUNT

Sounds just great.

Electronic ND -- I thought in the past why not using a LCD-screen like element to do that, which would allow to have a gradient like option on a push of a button. Furthermore, to paint perhaps an organic gradient with your 5" touch screen, to overcome difficult light situations. Am I too far off? ;o)

Anyway, amazing work. Congratulations.
 
Dr. Sassi said:
Sounds just great.

Electronic ND -- I thought in the past why not using a LCD-screen like element to do that, which would allow to have a gradient like option on a push of a button. Furthermore, to paint perhaps an organic gradient with your 5" touch screen, to overcome difficult light situations. Am I too far off? ;o)

Anyway, amazing work. Congratulations.
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that sounds pretty cool...
 
Mike 'Fireman' Ross said:
Jarred, that brings to mind a much more radical welding mask which recently caught my interest:



Mike
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Seriously WOW!!!! That's HDR like from another planet !!! I think Red need to hire this guy as there HDR guru. Man that's impressive. !
 
Love the built in ND....and the other motion artifact reducing qualities....

Just one question.

You'll have to forgive my ignorance here...making some assumptions

But even though this would be a 'global shutter' it seems as though it will still not eliminate rolling shutter skew....

Assumption 1:Even with the shutter at 360...we will still get the effects of rolling shutter as the pixels are being sampled top to bottom at different points in time....albeit very small difference....

Assumption 2: This system would appear to have a global ie uniform on/off in front of the sensor that would make the sensors exposure to light even and global....and the sensor itself would be left on an 'always open' state....but the pixels of the sensor itself are still sampled in a rolling pattern

I apologize if this is wrong....just from my basic understanding it still appears as if rolling shutter skew could still be present....unless there is some other filtering that I don't quite understand

Of course I am definitely not an expert...
 
Mike Harrington said:
Love the built in ND....and the other motion artifact reducing qualities....

Just one question.

You'll have to forgive my ignorance here...making some assumptions

But even though this would be a 'global shutter' it seems as though it will still not eliminate rolling shutter skew....

Assumption 1:Even with the shutter at 360...we will still get the effects of rolling shutter as the pixels are being sampled top to bottom at different points in time....albeit very small difference....

Assumption 2: This system would appear to have a global ie uniform on/off in front of the sensor that would make the sensors exposure to light even and global....and the sensor itself would be left on an 'always open' state....but the pixels of the sensor itself are still sampled in a rolling pattern

I apologize if this is wrong....just from my basic understanding it still appears as if rolling shutter skew could still be present....unless there is some other filtering that I don't quite understand

Of course I am definitely not an expert...
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My take:

The GS is achieved by closing the ND fully via electronic means. That would prevent any more light reaching the sensor, so even if the sensor reads-out the data line by line, there will be no rolling shutter what so ever.
The only possible "price" I can see is that tiny amount of time between the closing of the ND and the read-out of the sensor = this could have a implications on the max frame rate and shutter speeds. Basically 360˚ shutter would not be possible.
But this is a small price to pay and after all this is an option. Use it or don't...
 
totally logical peter....

I was thinking something along those lines...but my brain couldnt quite reach that point...

If that is the case there is probably a limit to the framerate shutter combo that could eliminate rolling shutter (as you say)

I agree...small price to pay...and on top of a gobal shutter...we would now have the motion artifacts reducing capabilities of the tessive as well as built in variable ND....
Should be the envy of the camera world in this department
 
Haven't read through the thread (still working on mobile while on floor at NAB) but can anyone confirm if a NIKON version is in the works and just hasn't been announced, or is this only ever going to be a Canon+PL supported product. Big disappointment if NIKON won't be getting Motion Mount love. Anyone?
 
Mike Harrington said:
totally logical peter....

I was thinking something along those lines...but my brain couldnt quite reach that point...

If that is the case there is probably a limit to the framerate shutter combo that could eliminate rolling shutter (as you say)

I agree...small price to pay...and on top of a gobal shutter...we would now have the motion artifacts reducing capabilities of the tessive as well as built in variable ND....
Should be the envy of the camera world in this department
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCkO3sSm8cI
 
hmm, so PL and Canon is announced and official… any infos on a possible Nikon route (F-mount) down the road?
 
Dave Digby said:
http://tessive.com/news/2013/4/6/important-message-regarding-the-time-filter-product

Hmm...
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Now that's not good. I have a mate who used this, loved it, and was about to place an order.

I love what RED have done with this tech, building it into a mount; very clever. But I'm not wildly enthusiastic IF they're involved in this move by Tessive; that would mean they've also shut off the tech from everyone else who wanted it... we don't all shoot RED all the time, and now it appears we've had one tool removed from our toolbox. A backwards step.

Do folks see where I'm coming from?

Mike
 
Or a move to limit tech to Red and advance market share (if you want to use this tool).
 
Mike 'Fireman' Ross said:
Now that's not good. I have a mate who used this, loved it, and was about to place an order.

I love what RED have done with this tech, building it into a mount; very clever. But I'm not wildly enthusiastic IF they're involved in this move by Tessive; that would mean they've also shut off the tech from everyone else who wanted it... we don't all shoot RED all the time, and now it appears we've had one tool removed from our toolbox. A backwards step.

Do folks see where I'm coming from?

Mike
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no it's called protecting your interests as a company. if another company wanted it they should have gotten to Tessive first in my view.
 
Mike Harrington said:
Love the built in ND....and the other motion artifact reducing qualities....

Just one question.

You'll have to forgive my ignorance here...making some assumptions

But even though this would be a 'global shutter' it seems as though it will still not eliminate rolling shutter skew....

Assumption 1:Even with the shutter at 360...we will still get the effects of rolling shutter as the pixels are being sampled top to bottom at different points in time....albeit very small difference....

Assumption 2: This system would appear to have a global ie uniform on/off in front of the sensor that would make the sensors exposure to light even and global....and the sensor itself would be left on an 'always open' state....but the pixels of the sensor itself are still sampled in a rolling pattern

I apologize if this is wrong....just from my basic understanding it still appears as if rolling shutter skew could still be present....unless there is some other filtering that I don't quite understand

Of course I am definitely not an expert...
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I looked at the motion mount today. The rolling shutter effect from flashes and strobes appeared to be gone. ND worked well. The skew effect was still present. Skew was never as much of an issue with me as flash but for some people it may be important to know. The impression I got was that they were still working on things. That's what I observed.
 
Also wondering how is handles strobes.
 
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