NAB 2014 rumors and whispers

[Jake Wilganowski]

Here's a list of things that I've read recently that have peaked my interest. Please add others...

- Matthews wireless follow focus system
- Tilta wireless follow focus system
- Bright Tangerine mattebox updates, including a tilting module for a updated Strummer
-Ppanasonic GH4 and Varicam, possibly new AF100?
- 2 new Canon Cinema EOS cameras, and a new cinema DSLR
- Kinefinity 6k cam
- Sony said big surprises regarding their current cine cam line
- BeSteadyFour, Movi, and Defy stabilizers
- whatever Red has up their sleeve
- new plasma lighting

WHAT ELSE?!?!

 

[Zeb B]

1000 Chinese manufacturers of Movi like products
ditto on jibs / sliders with power heads

(wink wink)

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

I hear GoPro is going to launch their 4K motion camera, Sony is going to announce a "significant" price drop on their lineup and ARRI has a new camera without a viable workflow or lens options

 

[Terry VerHaar]

At the risk of sounding like an overbearing English teacher - not "peaked" but "piqued." (People do this a lot so I thought I'd try and contribute a correction.)

:smiley:

 

[Ken Willinger]

Interested in checking out the Panasonic 4K VariCam 35. A little late to the game, but was a big Ikegami user back in the 80', 90's broadcast era, and a bunch of those engineers ended up at Panny... thus their rise in the broadcast world. Will be interesting to see what this offering is and how the workflow will pan out... and the cost.

 

[Mike P.]

I heard Black Magic has a FF35, 6k, 16stop camera coming. $5k. Won't be here until 2015 even though they'll say end of summer.

Just kidding.

I'm expecting a lot of cheap 4k and a lot of cheap raw. I would like to see Canon dip into raw officially on their DSLRs... though I think they'll stick with h264 (or successor) just at wannabe 4k (instead of wannabe 1080p.... Magic Lantern will have a field day with it though.)

 

[jake blackstone]

ARRI will show off 4K camera with COMPRESSED RAW recording onboard. The next day they are sued by Red, just like Sony for F65 camera, because Red owns compressed RAW patent…

 

[Tarek salman]

I think Red maybe will announce 8k camera with over 20 stop DR.

 

[SeanBrown]

Where is the REDuser party?

 

[Jacques Mersereau]

Rumor - AVID combines Symphony with Protools - at long last (but is it too late?).

 

[Sulekh Suman]

ARRI will show off 4K camera with COMPRESSED RAW recording onboard. The next day they are sued by Red, just like Sony for F65 camera, because Red owns compressed RAW patent…

Isn't Black magic offering compressed 4K Raw(Cinema DNG) via a future firmware update? It is currently shipping with 4K Pro Res 422(HQ).

 

[Chad Bonanno]

True Lens Company releasing a series of Nikon Rehoused lenses is what I am mostly excited for !

 

[jake blackstone]

Isn't Black magic offering compressed 4K Raw(Cinema DNG) via a future firmware update? It is currently shipping with 4K Pro Res 422(HQ).

4K Raw(Cinema DNG) is uncompressed

 

[Sulekh Suman]

Jake,

This is from their website.

Balckmagic Cinema Camera 4K Tech Specs
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicproductioncamera4k

[h=4]Compressed Recording Formats[/h]Visually lossless compressed CinemaDNG RAW with film dynamic range at 3840 x 2160. Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) at 3840 x 2160 and 1920 x 1080 with either film or video dynamic range.

It seems to me that there are several different ways of arriving at compressed RAW(other than what Red has patented). NAB 2014 will bear this out further. [h=4][/h][h=4][/h]

 

[Patrick Tresch]

...because Red owns compressed RAW patent…

I also find this problematic for our industry. I would love Red lift this for our sake. I know Red is R3D, and wavelet compressed raw is what made 4k+ revolution possible. It's a clear advantage for Red, too bad they won't le it go. R3D franchise? ;-)

Pat

 

[Sulekh Suman]

While I am personally excited about upgrading my Epic to Dragon, the glut on the supply side of 4K+ cameras will continue to depress the rentals market till the real demand for 4K content ramps up.

Just heard about a 6K camera for $3K.
http://news.doddleme.com/equipment/kinefinity-announces-6k-kinemax-camera/

 

[Elsie N]

I also find this problematic for our industry. I would love Red lift this for our sake. I know Red is R3D, and wavelet compressed raw is what made 4k+ revolution possible. It's a clear advantage for Red, too bad they won't le it go. R3D franchise? ;-)

Pat

Pat, shouldn't we be asking the industry giants to make their patents open sourced rather than asking the smaller companies to help out the big guys? That's kind of like asking a common taxpayer to bail out the big banks who mis-manage.

Plus, as a RED customer I think it is in MY best interest that RED hold on to their patents and grow as a company to help keep MY costs down when purchasing RED products.

 

[Patrick Tresch]

I don't know what to say. Red is not quite a small shop. I m happy with what Red has done for my work as a DOP. Giving me a great tool (from the One to Dragon) reaching top quality in a indie price and R3D was what made the ride possible. Don't shoot me yet... but this tech shouldn't kept for one company. I'm playing a bit the red guy here but the patent of wavelet compression of raw is also what keeps the other from running.

Pat

 

[Terry VerHaar]

ARRI will show off 4K camera with COMPRESSED RAW recording onboard. The next day they are sued by Red, just like Sony for F65 camera, because Red owns compressed RAW patent…

Doesn't it depend on the type of compression and the type of raw? Hard to imagine they "own" the whole gamut of "compressed raw." But stranger things have happened, I guess. :huh:

 

[Patrick Tresch]

I don't know the exact patent content bu I think it's wavelet compression of Raw...

How is Cineform Raw compared to R3D?

Pat