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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Nab 2008...

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Everything we have learned from Epic development will benefit the RED ONE. You guys kill me.

Jim
 
am i stupid or is there a new 7 inch pro LCD in the Red Store that wasn't there before? I did a search and couldn't find anything.

that is potentially exciting. it's odd, NAB has just made me excited to buy the good old (heh) Red One. Some of the coming accessories look really cool.
 
studiodrome said:
I don't see how releasing the EPIC will make the REDONE a doorstop. The EPIC is not going to blow the REDONE out of the water.

The EPIC is just a refinement aimed at very specific users. I'm sure it will have more dynamic range, we already know it has less compression most likely less skew and definitely higher frame rates.
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I take it back I was wrong. RED ONE sensor is still upgradable. case closed hysteria over on with the show
 
You are the guy who requested tombstone shadows that crawl like ivy at the crack of dawn? I had trouble shaking off that image, after viewing the Jesse James flick last night I suddenly understood.

All is forgiven.
 
Hey Jim,

The RC Heli hanging in the booth, with onboard RED ONE looked insane.
Is that rig for rent?
-J
 
I'm totaly stocked about the new RED products.
I love the RED One already but the epic is the killer cam, no doubt.
The epic has everything that I'm dreaming of. It's like the RED One exactly the way it should be. No offense. The trade in possibility is I totaly great.
I will do that. RED is getting in full gear now. I'm very proud of Jim and the team.
Guys, you just did it.
I salute you.

Tim
 
What happens with RED this year, happend with every revolution: it's getting etablished. You can be sad about that or irritated to see that all this early naysayers are stayingin the same line as you and talking about business when you would talk about dreams. As if they were believing in RED from the first day on.

So it is, so Jim and his team has to deal with it. But the best, there is still enough revolution, evolution and Rock'n'roll left and somehow the established help the dreamers to keep the RED cameras and accessories lowpriced. See it that way. And: It is so refreshing to see, how RED revolutionize not only the camera market but also the way to deal with there customers. Hehehe, who gives you the possibility to shoot with the first camera and then you give it back for the next one. On the other hand, I would NEVER give back my RED222, for me, this is camera history and I had from January to now enough projects to pay the whole camera with. Good, that I get my second RED2222 soon.

What I saw on the booth (lenses and stuff) is promising, the lenses, the glass looks great for this price, but they are beasts, you would need some people to help you carrie them, not really the way I am used to shoot. But as always, not only REDs suspect could change, so do I.
 
Establishment

Establishment

Being a member of the "establishment" that is commonly slagged off here I take my hat off to the "Red Team" with the annoucement of the Red Epic & Red Scarlett in particular. If the lenses truely are "new" designs and not modified stills lenses and "are" digitally designed then again I will take my hat off to the team.
The business model as it has stood is truely smashed this will bring in a wider group of filmmakers but I also worry it will dumb down certain aspects of filmmaking as it is commoditised and just as we expect more than one car maker I pray we still have more than one digital camera maker or Red will quickly become "the establishment" as Oakley did when it strayed from sunglasses to a lifestyle business.
Fact of the matter is competition keeps us true and innovating, the revolution bullshit was started long before Red, Red has advanced the game it didnt create it but Im not taking anything away from the great marketing and product development.
 
They said that the Red One was going to be upgradeable and I take them at their word. Jim and Red have more than earned that.

The only question in my mind is how much will it cost to EPICize... EPICify... EPICificate... upgrade RED ONE #351 to Mysterium X specs as compared to the incredibly generous offer of full price trade in toward a brand spanking new EPIC?

There is a sentimental attachment to this camera but I'm sure I could grow to love a RED EPIC given time... I'm thinking two or three seconds should do it.

The only place that I see where the Red One will be made "obsolete" is in the high end rental arena if it isn't upgraded... and then only when the EPIC is generally and easily available.

And realistically, I always understood "Red renders obsolescence obsolete" to be a goal that Red would stick to as long as they possibly can within reason... but do you really think they will keep at it when there are cameras with 12gigapixel sensors that can read down to the single photon, spectrum bracket, gather 64bits of colour with infinite focus (point and depth) select - that can dance on the head of a pin?

Okay, maybe Jim will invite me to drop #351 into the vat of nanobots for the upgrade, so it isn't completely out of the question.
 
Can I put a down payment on these nanobots?
Are they upgradeable?
 
Anders Holck said:
ehh, then use your 18k doorstop to earn the 22k, so you can afford the 40k doorstop :-)

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Or, sell that $80k doorstop (possibly with a Sony logo on it) that you have been using thus far :tongue:
 
i think the "Red renders obsolescence obsolete" line still absolutely rings true, considering we can trade a red one in for full purchase price. that is unprecedented as far as I know....
 
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