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NAB 2008 Analysis

Jeff Coatney

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NAB 2008 was a real pleasure for me this year. After spending so many hours reading my fellow RedUser's posts, I got to put a face to the names of many. I got lots of smiles and nods from RED TEAM and after putting all through my decoder ring, here's what I think:

FOOTAGE:

The presentation "Shot on Red" was stunning. I forget sometimes just how talented my fellow Red Users are and it was a pleasure seeing what so many of you have accomplished in such a short time with 1,500 or so cameras out in the world. Congratulations and thank you for helping to prove what an extraordinary piece of equipment the RED has become. I think RED should add another screen and lengthen the running time at NAB 2009. Hell, I'd buy a ticket. The Argentine and Guerilla footage was impressive and captivating and I hope there will be a 4K venue in which to screen it when it comes out. Maybe on a prototype RED RAY?

No heated RedUser posts or fanboy gushing can do more to silence the critics of this camera than simply seeing the footage. I know there are still many traditional, old-school DP's that are reluctant to shoot with RED. But, the footage proves beyond a reasonable doubt that a talented DP can produce imagery that is by any measure equal to film with this camera. There may be technical prejudices and preferences that linger still, but they will not come from the audience. Alas, the world changes.

Continue shooting. The momentum is ours and the tide is turning. The road ahead will be paved by all of our 4K frames.

SCARLETT:

I sent Jarred a rendering of what I thought Scarlett would look like a couple of days before the show and got his trademark cryptic laugh in response. I'll post it later so you all can have a giggle.

Priced in the $3K neighborhood, Scarlett is poised to be the new gateway drug for those of us lusting after a RED ONE. It also serves a more pragmatic function in that it protects RED ONE's flank in a market that is to some degree RED-hostile. While there have been many negative knee-jerk reactions to Scarlett's current form on RedUser, I don't believe the veracity of some of those posts. Having seen the little lady myself at the booth, I feel she is well designed and will have a larger following than any of us could predict.

The best thing about Scarlett is that we will all benefit from her popularity even if we don't buy one ourselves (which I admit is an unlikely scenario since I want at least two myself). With every Scarlett sold, there will be two to three more RED RAW workflow chains, training the young and the old and the merely curious about how to edit and finish a RED RAW project.

The Workflow, long criticized for being unwieldy, has finally graduated and is ready for the Big Leagues. Think of Scarlett as the West Point for future RED RAW Workflow Warriors™. Having a deep, robust User base of talented people familiar with the workflow from which to pull crew and staff will protect the investment made by early RED adopters and help goose the industry in finally putting RED in it's rightful place: everywhere.

EPIC:

Could this be the Panavision slayer? RED's development philosophy is clearly grounded in "Kaizan" (I hope I spelled that right) the concept of "constant improvement" utilized with ruthless efficiency by Honda and Toyota and seemingly ignored by Sony of late. RED TWO? Hardly. It seems Big Brother Epic serves a pragmatic market purpose as well. Protecting the top end of the market, RED ONE's other flank.

Epic takes careful aim at Dalsa, Viper, Arri D21 and so on. Do you think anyone else will enter the 5K market without thinking seriously? At $40K, Epic is betrothed to the well-heeled User and since the Workflow will be akin to a well-worn pair of jeans by the time Epic hits the beach, A-List projects will be waiting for him. Look for Epic to ship with PL and PV mount options (my opinion). While I respect Panavision's marketshare, the glass they make is their edge in a post-film world. What's more, I think Panavision will return to their historic roots, making the highest quality optics... and growing their business. I don't think they realize just how good life can be post-film and post-rental business model. They'll never match Jim's pricing and they won't have to. Differences in quality will be argued over for the next 20 years, giving retiring DP's plenty to rant about well into their golden years.

RED ONE:

The mainstay. If Epic is a Porsche, RED ONE is the Mercedes of the line-up. Although Jim offers full trade-in value toward Epic, he won't end up with a warehouse full of discards. The market for RED ONE will remain steady at $17,500 brand new, and... wait for it... a robust pre-owned RED ONE market will emerge at say... $15K? $12K?.

Jim won't abandon RED ONE. This is the platform upon which all the development has been built. The price-point alone guarantees it will out-sell Epic... IMHO, of course. RED ONE will run a distant second to Scarlett in prepping RED RAW Workflow Warriors™ to do the heavy lifting in the post-production pipeline. Look for a body change for RED ONE at NAB 2009. This is Oakley DNA we're talking about here.

RED RAY:

Du Art, Deluxe and Technicolor's long-term outlook is questionable when you consider that RED RAY utterly kills the concept of a release print. Not just kills it, RED RAY takes the release print out into the desert outside Vegas to a hole Jim has already dug and puts a cap into it's head. Scary, huh? Not when you consider the the Chinese word for crisis also means "opportunity".

While RED RAY was the biggest news since the RED ONE was announced at any NAB in the last decade, for all the problems this little box may cause to the status quo, it provides huge new lines of business for the legacy format's guardians. Deluxe, Du-Art, Technicolor, welcome to the Wal-Mart world. Before you're driven mad with fear, remember that Wal-Mart is the biggest company on the planet.

RED's historical legacy may well be it's impact on the sheer volume of high-quality filmed content that is destined to follow. You think the vaults are over-flowing now, wait until 1,500 new features a year are made with 5,000 RED cameras... oh, wait, I forgot to factor in Scarlett. Wait until 4,500 new high-quality programs shot on the 10,000 Scarlett's hit the market that would not have existed before. Those films will be important to the people that made them, even if they don't make a dime in revenue. Most will want to protect them and will pay to have them stored and archived. Doesn't sound like a lot? See how big the number is after 5 years.

As budgets shrink, the volume of high-quality 4K programming will increase and the Labs and Post Houses will have to adjust to the changing paradigm. High end service providers will appear in markets that could not have supported them before. The larger markets may see an initial shrinking in high-paying, high-profile clientele, but I believe they will see a growth in boutique shops that price aggressively to capture business and grow based on reputation, not market hegemony.

Suddenly Jim Jannard, Mark Cuban and Steve Jobs look like harbingers of a new order, crushing the old world and building a newer, more accessible, better one in it's place. Now every film festival will be able to screen in 4K. Now every filmmaker can take their RED RAY into any 4K, or even HD, equipped theatre and have a stunning, pristine print to show.

The implications of RED RAY are still sinking in. As the launch date approaches, the picture will become clearer, but one thing is certain: RED RAY will have the biggest footprint of all the products RED has yet announced.

RED DISPLAYS & PROJECTORS:

Red has created products to date that don't really have large-scale competition. The market for motion picture cameras wasn't big enough to entice any digital players into getting in it with any degree of seriousness. The field of digital cinema acquisition was populated by under-funded efforts by film camera makers to be relevant and control the ground, thus prolonging their dominance. From a post-RED perspective, it is clear that for most of them, creating a truly viable digital system wasn't even the goal.

In the case of RED RAY, it doesn't really go head-to-head with any existing solution, it creates a whole new market. In each case, RED innovates a solution to a problem that was inefficiently served by older, far more cumbersome technology. Both are brilliant examples of innovation and recognizing opportunities in the market.

The conditions facing a possible future RED projector or display are quite different. There are very capable solutions that exist in the 4K projector market. The problem is cost. The price-point for displays will remain high as long as there is not enough demand for 4K content. For Jim to win at the projector game, he has to either partner with an established architecture or engage in a licensing deal with Texas Instruments or Sony or some other manufacturer. Even at that his pricing would have to be more aggressive than the camera, in order to get display options into the market in sufficient numbers to generate demand for 4K.

I would not bet against Jim. He could boot-strap the development of an active matrix 4K projector and unleash the power of his team to do it, but I think those folks will be busy with Scarlett and Epic and whatever else Jim has up his sleeve. In short, I don't see viable RED Projector options on the horizon before NAB 2009. However, for Jim to introduce RED RAY, there had to be a pathway to 4K mass exhibition somewhere on the radar. Maybe we're on the eve of an announcement?
 
Fantastic post.

For RedRay to be a viable exhibition method in cinemas, there will have to be a REMARKABLE amount of security attatched. No one could ever 'copy' a print, but with a DVD, one could just burn it, and piracy would go through the roof, so I can't see REDRAY taking off in a huge way unless that issue is dealt with, distributors simply would not accept it.
 
Excellent post!

I agree! - Red Ray has been very under-estimated at this point. Look at the current costs involved in the digital cinema package (DCP) mastering field both in the costs of the current hardware (Doremi, Qvis, Dolby) and software solutions (Qube Cinema).

I'm very excited at the potential that this device holds for digital distribution of Indie film.

Scarlet will have a huge impact too and will help to rapidly increase the stability of the entire Red line of products because when you are reaching out to that many customers, the entire workflow HAS to be rock solid and it has to be widely supported by third party vendors.
 
[quote=mkt7@mac.com;200397]Fantastic post.

For RedRay to be a viable exhibition method in cinemas, there will have to be a REMARKABLE amount of security attatched. No one could ever 'copy' a print, but with a DVD, one could just burn it, and piracy would go through the roof, so I can't see REDRAY taking off in a huge way unless that issue is dealt with, distributors simply would not accept it.[/quote]


Hopefully the software will have the ability to write the same KDM security encryption keys that are currently the standard for digital prints.
 
Also, If we're talking commercial exhibition copies, no reason why each disc cant be accompanied by a hardware dongle..
 
Also, If we're talking commercial exhibition copies, no reason why each disc cant be accompanied by a hardware dongle..

You don't need this as KDM keys have the same function. It is a small, user generated file that allows that specific print to be played in a particular place and time. The projectionist would typically order a new KDM for each week of the theatrical run and the distributor would e-mail this to them.
 
Fantastic post.

For RedRay to be a viable exhibition method in cinemas, there will have to be a REMARKABLE amount of security attatched. No one could ever 'copy' a print, but with a DVD, one could just burn it, and piracy would go through the roof, so I can't see REDRAY taking off in a huge way unless that issue is dealt with, distributors simply would not accept it.
Any price?
 
What I find really exciting about this device is that it opens up the potential of screening digital film at a lot of different venues. Being able to inexpensively create 4k,2k, 1080p & 720p versions of the same material means that you are able to play in lots of different theatres that have digital projectors of some sort. It also means that you are not restricted by the DCI spec or the specs of any particular digital screen network.

Ideally the box will have VTR type controls and won't require an external computer to operate.
 
Hi Jeff,
Where are you getting the idea that RED RAY is a DDR suitable for
exhibition? Say, capable of playing back 100 minutes of 4K RGB.
It needs two lots of Dual Stream HDSDI and a redundant RAID
setup for a start.
This is a small box, looks like a field player to me, like a Sony clam.
Maybe I'm missing something here not being at NAB?
Can you fill me in. And whats RED DISK?
Cheers Mezmo
 
Hi Jeff,
Where are you getting the idea that RED RAY is a DDR suitable for
exhibition? Say, capable of playing back 100 minutes of 4K RGB.
It needs two lots of Dual Stream HDSDI and a redundant RAID
setup for a start.
This is a small box, looks like a field player to me, like a Sony clam.
Maybe I'm missing something here not being at NAB?
Can you fill me in.
Mezmo

Read the following;

http://www.provideocoalition.com/in...k_playback_for_under_1000from_a_burnable_dvd/
 
Thanks for that link Adam,
So this is a DVD Burner/Player @ 20:1 compression of original
4K material.
It's a small screen client Viewer but has the Quad SDI and a possible
RGB codec for clients with $100K projectors. Strange.
Jeff, I seiously doubt this thing would be suitable for serious large
screen theatrical exhibition. Hefty Compression and low data rates are
gonna hobble it's potential in this area.
Mezmo
 
the device doesn't burn just play. I aksed Deanan about the the compression issue (fitting 2hrs of 4k on DVD9). He said they can do and it looks great. I agree with the original poster - this device is the biggest breakthrough in digital cinema (if the specs hold).
 
Hi sparkhope,
Looks great where, when and on what.
Do you honestly think the DCI would dump the whole Digital Cinema Spec
for a $1K DVD player from Red.
Mezmo
 
Hi sparkhope,
Looks great where, when and on what.
Do you honestly think the DCI would dump the whole Digital Cinema Spec
for a $1K DVD player from Red.
Mezmo

That's besides the point. Who cares about the DCI spec when you can have this capability at this price. This isn't going to effect what the studios do per se, but it is going to have a huge impact for indies. People like Emerging Pictures are going to love this.
 
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