My wish list...

[Peter Majtan]

Jim, here is my one peso of what I personally would like to see on the DSMC:

* Interchangeable lens mount ala "BirgerIMS"
- most (if not all) pro photographers invest a ton into their lenses and keep them for a very long time - unlike the body. You should offer an upgrade path where they are able to buy the RED DSMC body and use their existing lenses... (hence IMS)
- Nikon & Canon mounts are an absolute minimum, but they must allow for full electronic control of Iris, AF, TTL metering, OIS and other features currently available on the most commonly used lenses directly on the camera body... (similar to Briger)


* F35mm sensor (Full Frame 35mm Still Format)
- going any bigger and most current 35mm DSLR owners won't be interested due to the lack of compatibility for their existing lenses...
- if You want to go bigger (such as medium or large format), please make it either a separate model, or in a form of interchangeable sensor cartridge. This way one could "stick-in" medium format sensor with appropriate lens mount and use his camera for such a purpose. Then swap the sensor for 35mm and relevant lens mount and use it for that purpose... This would be indeed revolutionary. User can chose huge image size/resolution with lower frame rate (or even single still only), or smaller size/resolution with higher frame rate as required...


* HDRI sensor
- the DR has to be out of this world
- automatic multiple exposure mode that combines the data to single HDRI RAW image (no need to do this manually in post), similar to ARRISCAN
- "Auto-stretch" HDRI mode - to stretch the data between absolute black & absolute white to maximize the use of the available bit depth. User selectable of course, this function maximize the RAW data quality with maybe a meta-tag stating the original darkest & brightest points values as reference for post...


* Detachable control panel ala EPIC
- this will allow for wireless remote control of the camera for wildlife or any other situations requiring hands off the camera...
- ideally the panel should feature the LCD image with "Live View" transmitted from the body so we can see what we are about to capture...


* WiFi data transmission
- wireless transmission of the RAW image data for remote data capturing / backup
- allow full control from WiFi equipped PC/Mac with image capture directly within the SW (ala Canon)


* Compatibility with internal/external large capacity recording media
- to allow for long-term recordings, such as timelapse, video, etc...
- ideally it should feature at least 256GB internal SSD drive...


* Weather-sealed, including lens mount
- should be able to withstand direct exposure to rain and brief submersion in a water...
- definitely dust-proof with self-cleaning sensor...


* Weapons-grade aluminum/magnesium/titanium construction
- I should be able to defend myself with the camera against a charging rhino and have to worry more about hurting the rhino then damaging the camera...


* Ergonomical
- I don't have to elaborate here...


* Not too small, or light
- robust solid construction that aids with stability


These are just a few things that come from top of my head...
Of course I don't expect any feedback...

Peter


EDIT-01: As Shawn correctly pointed out - Instant recording from cold power-on (ala current DSLR's...). Basicaly be able to take a picture within 5 sec from a cold start...

 

[Alex.Mitchell]

If the Red One can mount pretty much any kind of still glass available today or in the past, it'd be kinda weird to if their still camera couldn't. I'm sure there'll be something in place to let us all use our favourite glass, though maybe they're thinking about doing something a little different?

 

[Rob Martin]

don;t forget GPS

 

[Shawn Nelson]

dang, that's a good list!

ditto on the GPS, I read that the GPS chips are $3 now. I'm surprised there isn't a 'GPS Module' for the Red already.

 

[Rob Martin]

upgradeable sensor and boards......... do we take as read (red) ????

stuff this paying 8000 every two years for a new 1Ds!!!!

 

[Brook Willard]

Here are a few of my instant requests.

I'd like a rapidly interchangeable mount system. I'd love to be able to switch from Canon to Nikon in a matter of seconds. Because still cameras autofocus with sharpness instead of distance, the collimation won't be an issue. Lens mount quick release.

Obviously the sensor would be eight-perf, but it'd be nice if there was a 1.5x "crop" mode where we could use lenses designed for cropped SLRs without needing to manually crop the images in post.

I'd assume that the processing would be native to Adobe Camera RAW. I don't want to have to use special software... I want to use Photoshop!

I also assume that the RAW capture will be uncompressed. REDCODE is great and all, but it's still compression. For stills work, there has to be an uncompressed option. I'm sure this is a given.

Cool stuff... it'll be fun to see what the guys come up with.

 

[Paolo Tinari]

highest sync speed ever

 

[Jared Caldwell]

Well, I was wondering if it is out of the realm of possibilities to have a sensor greater than the standard 35mm still format...

I know that people would frown on not being able to use all of their invested glass on DSMC, but it seems that if this is going to revolutionize the still camera industry, I think having a much larger sensor could be part of that.

Cropping this *much* larger sensor to 35mm still could be an option to please those who have already invested in glass, while using the full area of the sensor with a new line of RED lenses would provide more options to those who want it.

In order to be more of a revolution to the DSLR world than the RED ONE is to the cinema world, it seems to me you would have to go with a larger sensor with more resolution, just to start.

No doubt that DSMC will be a part the new Monstro program. With this new larger sensor, it should have unparalleled DR, noise reduction, etc.

Also uncompressed RAW.

In the "moving images" realm, this is where things seem a little bit tricky. We don't know the price point of DSMC yet, but I would assume that $10k is the very very max that RED would sell it for, which puts it between Scarlet and the RED ONE (unless it is much cheaper! ). How do you make a still camera with a moving image feature that you would actually want to use (unlike the D90...pft...) without competing with Scarlet and the RED ONE?

You could limit the framerate, but then again, hasn't the framerate always been one of the big issues? It seems in order to have a DSLR revolution, you would want to burst that mold.

You could limit resolution, but that doesn't really jive with what RED is doing right now.

Really, I am scratching my head on the moving image capabilities of DSMC. It seems you would have to place limits on it in order to not compete with Scarlet and the RED ONE, and as we all know, RED is not about placing limits....they are about breaking them...

 

[oxred]

Think Leica: Keep it simple-lookwise and to use

Think Leica: Keep it simple-lookwise and to use

1. Put whatever nice things you want to put inside, but make it look SIMPLE - as simple and elegant as the Leica M series.

Please don't make a DSLR that looks like out-of-this-world and draw unnecessary attention from people/on-lookers. When I go out with my Canon gear , people look at me and say, 'wow , you are a serious photographer.' but when I go out with my Leica MP , people don't take a note of it; a friend said,' it's looks like a cheap camera.' that makes life easier.

2. Modular approach : I like basic stuff , but if people like to add all kinds of bells and whistle , let them have the option to add those. but the core should be PURE basic photography.

3. BLUE SKY approach to lens design: why go on using older lens from other companies ? I too have a good collection of Canon L, Leica, Zeiss [C/Y and ZM], OM Zuiko lenses, but would like to rationalise the whole system [i.e. sell the old stuff] if I am given extraordinary primes and zooms- crisp neutral colour, 3D-ish look, rest as usual.

smaller, lighter lens are more than welcome. not the heavy Canon (70-200/2.8 is )/Nikon (14-24mm!!!) approach ... again think Leica. so give us new lenses of not more than 350gms each.

4. upgradeable, etc etc .. as others have mentioned.

 

[Chris Pickle]

make it as small as possible!!!!

 

[shaunt]

What could be interesting.

What could be interesting.

I am a complete newbie when it come to video production/photography and a few months ago I learned about the Scarlet and I have been excited about it ever since, but I think this DSLR could actually be better than the Scarlet.

On a post by Stu Maschwitz at http://www.prolost.blogspot.com/ he talks about the Nikon DSLR being able to shoot video and what this trend can mean for the videographer. If Red takes this new camera in the direction that Stu thinks these types of cameras should go, wouldn't that indeed be a Scarlet killer? Even if it didn't shoot 3K, but if it shot 2K or even at Full HD resolution and be able to be hot swappable with CF cards so you can do continuous shooting, unlike Nikon's which I think you can only shoot video for a limited amount of time, and have multiple frame rates and full manual controls in video mode, which would be great, how could this not kill the Scarlet?

You'd have a better sensor, more dynamic range, more DOF, interchangeable lenses, the only trade off might be resolution, but when it comes to all the other gains I think I would gladly make that trade off. I just hope it wont be more expensive than the Scarlet.

Those are my 2 cents for whatever they are worth,

Shaun

 

[Mark Thorpe]

Will there also be a speedlite, flashgun to accompany the DSMC, sounds like a military application!! If so, massive sync speed into the 1000th/s.

Weather sealed to splash proof even like the Olympus P&S range that are good to 5m depth in the Ocean.

Laser Range Finder

GPS

Multi lens mount option with Smart capability (3rd party vendors no doubt)

Ergonomic

 

[GIR]

* HDRI sensor
- the DR has to be out of this world
- automatic multiple exposure mode that combines the data to single HDRI RAW image (no need to do this manually in post), similar to ARRISCAN
- "Auto-stretch" HDRI mode - to stretch the data between absolute black & absolute white to maximize the use of the available bit depth. User selectable of course, this function maximize the RAW data quality with maybe a meta-tag stating the original darkest & brightest points values as reference for post...

This would be a welcome feature, I've been doing HDR photography for the last year or so and as much as I enjoy it processing the images can be a bit of a nose bleed sometimes.

* Compatibility with internal/external large capacity recording media
- to allow for long-term recordings, such as timelapse, video, etc...
- ideally it should feature at least 256GB internal SSD drive...

Hopefully USB 3.0

* Weapons-grade aluminum/magnesium/titanium construction
- I should be able to defend myself with the camera against a charging rhino and have to worry more about hurting the rhino then damaging the camera...

This is something else that I agree with, in my country we have koalas that have developed a taste for blood, it would be nice to have something to club them with when taking photos out in the bush.

 

[Hrvoje Simic]

HDMI 1.3 and live feed.

 

[Joseph Ward]

Stereoscopic compatible!:w00t:

 

[Esteban Sosnitsky]

-No 35mm full frame 6x4.5!!! Medium Format!!!
-HDR, highest dynamic range ever.
-Sync speed up to at least 1/1000th
-Open lens platform (nikon, canon, zeiss, red)
-TTL exposure
-WiFi capabilities
-Live Feed
-AF Focus Assist (one that doesnt suck)
-GPS

 

[Simon Valderrama]

more DR less MP

more DR less MP

I'm tired of the DSLR market focusing only on resolution and megapixels.
In my company we also work on image editing for printed ads and fashion and right now the files we receive from photographers are way bigger than anyone would ever need for any purpose. An example the files from the newest Imacon H3 are just too much. We just slow down our computers for details no one will ever see when the ad will be printed anywhere ...
What we need is DR, or even more HDR. We want to capture every nuance our naked eye can perceive and even more.
Sure megapixels are easier to sell, like Mhz for microprocessors, because just give a big number to put on the product sticker ( ... and now, 60 MPixels!! Whoaa!), but that's just consumerism, not often people need to print an ad big as the Empire State Building.
What people really need is being able to capture every moment of nature without worrying about the photo coming out blurred because there's not enough light.
Also, it would have a great creativity impact being able to use continuous lighting in fashion shoots, thanks to greater DR and sensitivity ...
low energy consumption also would be great, those DSLR batteries always running out ....

 

[J. Bernard Vallon]

People want to use existing glass...but if the sensor was 36mm x 36mm square, we could use all existing nikon, canon, leica, whatever glass and get a larger image out of it. Just a thought. (Id buy)

-J

 

[Jim Hoffman]

I love the ability to switch from an all on autofocus to an thumb selectable point or group of points and back again. The idea to be able to rapidly switch to get the shot you need fast. If there could be a user definable autofocus point priority or weighting that would be cool.


If you really wanted to go crazy you could incorporate a pupil tracking/priority for autofocus.

Oh - and if it could carry itself and put itself away that would be cool too.

 

[Eric Lange]

DSMC WISH LIST

BIG PICTURE

1. Would like to see that this sensor HW/SW to be open.

The major implications of an open high end system is that RED ONE will become to the 21st Century what KODAK was to the 20th. It is embarrassing that apart from the RED ONE, AFAIK there are no serious stills cameras that are designed built and manufactured in the USA. If the new RED unit is open it will enable smaller companies (such as mine) to design and manufacture some of the coolest, and highest end camera systems on the planet; a sort of Cambrian explosion of new camera designs and systems. RED ONE would be to digital what KODAK is/was to film. This I believe would stimulate terrific economic growth in this sector and force Canon and Nikon down market in the point and shoot direction, and will leave Hasselblad and Mamiya scratching their heads. If the system is open such that it can be easily integrated into different systems and the device is easy and open to talk to (digitally speaking) then this will represent an amazing opportunity and a new “Gold Rush”. This will really level the playing field. We would like this new device to be easily and seamlessly integrated into 3rd party systems so that developers of new HW and SW can effect distinct product identities, i.e. The design and form factor is fairly neutral, so that a camera system could have a sticker on it that says “RED INSIDE” just like PCs that say “Intel Inside”. I think this will also really shake up the industrial camera market too.

2. RED CODE, various meta formats and architecture.

The kind of work we do, we are constantly faced by the fact that industry standard formats are unable to delivery the things we need to do. We have of course our own internal formats, but we are constantly faced with problems of how we can make our formats more usable to the industry. We are looking at various flavors of binary XML. We have to include stereo video, stereo texture maps streamed VR geometries, Coherently stereo textured geometries, encoder data, time stamps... the list goes on. Would be nice of RED to develop a sensible rationale for future expanded functionality that I am sure will be integral to a high res still camera that shoots motion. I.e. Allow structures such as High res frame, 20 low res frames, High res frame, 20 low res etc. plus write all the supplemental data to headers for each image such as positional encoder info and GPS etc. I'm sure RED has been thinking in this direction for a long time now.