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Movi M10 Setups, FAQs, and More

The weight limit is only for the camera inside the tray. If you want to put 6 V-lock batteries on the frame it's up to you. The overall weight is only limited to your capacity to lift it and hold the position.
I bought the redrockmicro wireless with collins clamp, will add the paralinx+ with one receiver (maybe a second one later if necessary)
I will use my dp4 for the focus puller and will add a convergent odyssey 7 (as it can convert sdi signal to hdmi for the paralinx and can be used as recorder)
so far everything (camera, monitor, paralinx, follow focus) can be powered with one v-lock battery.
I'm thinking of using the redrock micromount to put rails in the tray (for the follow focus motor) or a kessler k-plate (which would be useful to move faster from tripod to hand held to movi,...)
I think I will wait to receive the M10 to decide which solution will be the best for the rails
 
Jonathan Stevenson said:
Yes that's my planned configuration also. Although I'm having a hard time figuring out how to power the camera, paralinx, AND remote FF without resorting to V-lock batteries which obviously would exceed the weight limit. However, I keep seeing pictures of Freefly using these setups, so I know it's possible. The fact that they have thus far not released any specifics on this kind of stuff or the operation of the thing in general is exceedingly frustrating.
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Hopefully as the first pre orders start landing people will start posting their rigs. monitoring and power solutions.
 
Jonathan, re part of the power puzzle, in case you missed it, RU Carey asked what batteries come with it to power the unit itself on MOVI/FF forum.

Answer was:

1. 2 batteries. One should last most of a shoot day. Pretty sure that additional batteries will be available through either the Freefly distributors or direct.

Here is the rest of the post and link to thread for those interested. http://forum.freeflysystems.com/ind...the-first-small-batch-of-m10-recipients.1973/

2. It does come with a stand for doing the adjustments and balancing. It does not come with anything for mounting to other types of mounts, jibs, steadicams. However we did see it mounted to both Steadicam and Easyrig at the NAB show.

3. No it does not include a storage case. But does ship in a good foam box

4. (re a tray for the remote) All of the other bits and pieces are left up to the operator to source. Depending on your requirements we can make suggestions here on the forum or if you see something in one of the photos or behind the scenes videos we can probably identify the piece of gear. The setup in the Burton was using the tray and harness from www.secraft.net. They make great stuff.
 
Some more info coming in from the Movi Forums:

- Lipo 4S batteries are what power the Movi.

- You can purchase a Lipo to Epic cable. Runtime would be similar to a RedVolt, provided you purchase the correct Lipo 4S. http://www.quadrocopter.com/DC-Power-Cable-for-RED_p_857.html

- This Lipo battery is supposedly good for powering Epics, often used with aerial rigs to reduce weight. http://www.quadrocopter.com/Hyperion-G179-2500mAh-4S25C-Lipo_p_768.html

- Lipo 4S batteries cost in the $40 range and charge relatively quickly (30min or less).

- Freefly is supposedly creating a cable that will power a redrock microRemote with a Lipo.

Obviously, a lot of this is common knowledge amongst the quadcopter/RC crowd. I'm new to all this so I'm just posting what is new information to me!
 
Any news on what the price point will be for a scarlet/epic setup?
 
Dimitri,

I'm not sure I follow… the M10 is the only model currently that will fly an Epic or Scarlet, and it is $14,995.

Unless you were referring to the larger, forthcoming M20, which we have not yet heard a price on.

The M10 was upgraded slightly and they are now rating at a 12 lb payload capacity.
 
Just got an update email last night. Fingers crossed for "the big email" sometime this week...

"We wanted to get a quick status update out to everyone as we know how anxious everyone is to get their MōVI! In our last update, we mentioned there was a cosmetic issue with a batch of parts and we requested new parts to be made. We are excited to announce that we received the replacement parts last week and restarted production. We will be contacting the next pre-order shipment group this week to arrange final payment and shipping details. We assure you that we are doing everything we can to get the MōVI's built, tested and shipped as quickly possible. Once we have a couple of weeks of full production under our belt, we will be able to provide more specific shipping information."
 
From the information I've found, this seems to be the best combination of accessories for a complete Movi Rig, as well as the lightest batteries to power each accessory.

Movi M10 rig - Powered by Lipo batteries

Epic Body - Powered by Side handle with Redvolt, or Lipo batteries using a special adapter cable. Runtimes should be similar to Redvolts. I'd rather use Redvolts and avoid any chance of frying the camera.

RedRock microRemote Follow Focus - Powered by Lipo battery using a custom cable that will be sold by Freefly.

Paralinx or Teradek - Powered via micro to micro USB cable, also available from Freefly, from the USB power output on the Small HD DP4. DP4 also has HDMI passthrough that can send a signal to a paralinx.

DP4 powered by batteries of your choice using the plates made by Small HD.

DX7 transmitter (remote control for Movi pan/tilt) is powered by internal battery, charger comes with the kit.
 
Jonathan, this is exactly how I have my MōVI setup and it works nicely. Only change I make sometimes is to power the DP4 with one of our Lipos but the LPE6 batts are more user friendly.

Tabb
 
That's great to know, thanks for chiming in Tabb! Can I have my Movi now? Haha

Seriously though, so excited to get mine!

Any experience on how long a lipo will run the redrocks?
 
I was wondering about this possibility:

Epic with Side Handle and +1 Module. With a Redvolt in the handle, you could power the camera and Teradek (via +1 Module Aux power). Touchscreen on Gimball (powered via camera). Li-Poly for Gimball and RRM FF???

Thoughts?
 
Jonathon asked about reposting this writeup I did. Here's what I posted over on the Freefly Forum. (forum.freeflysystems.com) Lots of MoVI information there, both ground and multi-copter based.

Also the MōVI manual was posted today at www.freeflysystems.com. It is on the opening page or you can go to the Media tab.

Wanted to post some photos of what is coming to those of you with MōVI's on order. Full disclosure that as a moderator I am biased to Freefly products. But I will keep this factual for you.

Here's what shows up. The large box is the M10 and the smaller box is the MR upgrade to an M10.

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Opening up the M10 you find the top protective layer and the manual for the Spektrum DX7 transmitter. At the top you see the stand in it's collapsed condition. If you saw the original stand at NAB this is a totally new design. the 4 arms contain bungee cords and each arm plugs into the center column so that you can quickly assemble and un-assemble the stand for travel.

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Taking off the top foam you see the entire kit. I have removed the small bag at the top of the previous photo. Will show those contents later.

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Here's a series of closeups. This first one shows the transmitter, neck strap and charger for the DX7S.

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Moving up you see the 2 batteries and the battery charger. Stand is at the top.

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On the upper right you see the upper part of the M10. The M10 is fully assembled with the exception of the top carry handle. There is nothing other than sliding the handle into the top bracket and tightening the 4 M3 bolts.

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And finally the lower right section. The bag contains the power and battery attach cable for the charger.

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In the plastic bag you find some extra large o-rings which are used for securing the battery, extra foam sticky pads if the receiver or other items would ever need to be removed and replaced, cap head screws for use on the camera mounting plate (acts as a stop for the plate when mounted on the M10), two 1/4-20 screws for the camera plate (two lengths which make a difference. My D800 needed the shorter screw), two extra friction clamp replacements and finally the only two tools that you need.

Now I will pontificate for a moment. Those two hex drivers are an example of what sets Freefly apart from others. Someone took the time to not just supply a hex driver but a ball tip hex driver. Might not sound important but as you are setting up the MōVI or really any other device that needs adjustment, a ball tip means that you can come in at an angle without damaging the socket on the bolt. The Freefly team pays attention at this level of detail. This is just one example of design excellence.

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Here's the contents of the MR Kit box. Two of the landing gear legs that plug into the center Pan hub with a dovetail like fitting, a leg that mounts to the back of the pan arm and the star plate for attaching to a Cinestar multi-copter. Bag contains all of the screws required.

Time to install, at least on my first attempt was about 10 minutes. Simple process. Take the top crossbar handle off the M10. Attach the legs, 4 screws on each of the front legs and a clamp with 4 screws for the back Pan tube leg, 4 screws to attach the star plate. Done and ready to mount to the copter.

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Setup and balance is straight forward. First time will take you some time, about an hour or so, to methodically go through each of the steps. At a high level, mount the camera and adjust for front to back, adjust for tilt, adjust for roll, adjust for Pan. No tools needs except for gross adjustment of the roll beam (large hex) and Pan adjustment of the clamps (small Hex). Take time to get it perfect. Perfect balance is one of the key successes to get perfect image capture.

After doing it several times I can do a change in about 15 minutes. Likely that time will decrease a bit with more practice.

The tuning with the software is straight forward. I have tried the Mac OS and Windows versions. Need to get an Android tablet to try that one.

DX7 is straight forward on how to use.

And now the subjective part of this. If you appreciate the effort that goes into clean functional designs and really take a look at what Tabb and the Freefly team have created you will realize that the thought, engineering, ease of use for the user that went into not only the M10 but the entire Freefly product family is incredible. Fit and finish, flexibility, nearly tool less adjustments. The amount of testing, tweaking, changes that went into the M10/MR shows in the final product that is shipping. Pretty sure you are going to like what you see when yours shows up.
 
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