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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

monitors again..

Gunleik Groven said:
How are you using it? Connection, calibration etc...

It's been very accurat in colors with our DI suite (Sony CRT's, plasmas and a projector I cannot remember the name of).

Corresponds very badly to Dell 24" LCD's, but that is sort of the point.

That is connected through AJA Hi5 from Rocket dual SDI with REC 709 profile.
The contrast in the REC 709 profile seems a bit aggressive, though.

Question is really:
How are you referencing/Calibrating your monitorpath?
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Are you talking about the Dreamcolor or the 2475w? I'm using the 2475w just as my main computer display connected through DVI. Tried calibrating with a spyder 3 pro, didn't help, and then just the os x calibration. Neither worked in getting the colors right. The closest I could get to match with what I was seeing out of my rocket on my panasonic 1710 is by using a generic wide gamut display profile, which then was a little too washed out.
 
Nathan Pena said:
Are you talking about the Dreamcolor or the 2475w? I'm using the 2475w just as my main computer display connected through DVI. Tried calibrating with a spyder 3 pro, didn't help, and then just the os x calibration. Neither worked in getting the colors right. The closest I could get to match with what I was seeing out of my rocket on my panasonic 1710 is by using a generic wide gamut display profile, which then was a little too washed out.
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Sorry. Talking about the Dreamcolor...
 
I have a 2475w for private use. First thing to notice is that its color space is huge, and not every calibrator can cope with it. It is a monitor capable of supporting a reasonable calibrated preprint (photo) workflow, but it just doesn't compare to our hardware-calibrateable 10 bit eizo in our preprint lab. Problems I noted are that there is a slight color gradient from one side to the other, and a slight banding due to the software-calibration. Also the screen lacks the a-tw polarizer and therefore has a white shine looking at it at an angle. But for 500 bucks it was the best 24" non-tn monitor when I bought it.

Regards, Matt
 
Blair S. Paulsen said:
I am under the impression that the DreamColor has a far more sophisticated color management component. In addition to the IPS (In Plane Switching) tech (which I assume the models mentioned share) and the excellent (for an lcd screen) black levels, the DreamColor can be calibrated far more accurately and allows the user to save various color spaces. It also comes with a decent rec 709 LUT, a P3 (DCI) LUT and some other color space options right out of the box.

Not sure that justifies the price premium but in doing color work I often find the devil is in the details. YMMV.

Cheers - #19
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I agreen. I have a Dell Laptop Screen.It is interesting to see how much can be packed inside a case so small these days.:seeya:
 
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Zakaree Sandberg said:
what is the main differences between the expensive dreamcolor and the HP LP2475w @ $500 -ish
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At Reducation they rate monitors and this is one of the LEAST liked, despite the points Blair brought up. Its biggest drawback is its too bright for color critical work and more than 1 person in the room, forget it.

Mike Most will chime in Im sure but the Panny Plasmas are the defacto standard now for color critical work in all the top post houses in LA (4:2:2) of course TV, DVD etc where 99% of projects end up. Film out CC is typically projected.

The only issue with the Panasonic is the SMALLEST is now 50" - and weighs almost 100lbs so it sucks for on set color.

Bigger is better for most critical post work though, you find more problems than on a 24"
 
Matthias, I use an Eizo for all my Still work. Have you used it all for grading? Im going to buy a Rocket and Panny 1760 soon and am anxious to see how the two screens compare.

CB
 
Soman said:
If I had to spend $500 for a monitor what would you recommend. Is it prudent to have 2 monitors or a single monitor in that budget. Appreciate if anyone can throw some light on the advantages of 2 monitors.
Monitors that I am considering are
1. ASUS VW266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1)
2. ASUS VE276Q Black 27" 1920X1080 2ms Full HD HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor w/Display Port & Speakers
300 cd/m2 100,000 :1 (ASCR)
3. SAMSUNG P2770HD Rose Black 27" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DC 50,000:1(1000:1) Built-in
HDTV Tuner & Speakers

Thx in Adv
Soman
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Soman-

I would not recommend the ASUS VW266H for any "color critical" work. I have three of them on a several of my workstations because they are big and cheap. I love them for general work (web surfing, email) connected to a computer, but not for color.

On a whim I tried calibrating the HDMI video input with Calman and an Xrite i1Pro to see what I could get out of the display. I determined that the controls available within the monitor are not user friendly enough to get anything close to a Rec.709 colorspace (at least with the time I had). I would not recommend using a VideoEq or HDlinkPro upstream of the ASUS display either. These types of devises are too expensive to waste on this display.

If I had time, I would want to generate a Colorsync Profile of the display, and see what I can get out of it while connected to my Mac.

I do not have any experience using the VE276Q or the P2770HD. I would go with a DreamColor or an Eizo. I know they are more expensive, however I think that you will be much happier with a better display if color is important.

Sincerely,
Todd
 
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