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Monitor Calibration using hardware

I have long been pondering purchasing a monitor calibration tool such as this, but there are a few on the market (in the budget I'm looking for).
Are there any particular differences between the i1d3 and, for example, the Spyder4Elite? Or is it all in the 'software'?

And as a follow up, because this was something that I have only recently come to understand.. how prevalent is the compatibility between the hardware peripheral made by datacolor, x-rite etc and 3rd party software (such as resolve)?.

Both the i1 Display Pro and Spyder4Elite are easy to get (and in my range) but I would prefer to get the one that's more universally recognised by other applications (and therefore has a longer shelf life for my calibration needs).

OR have I totally misunderstood the way these calibration tools work (which is entirely possible) :)

Many thanks for any thoughts, and digital beers for putting up with the uneducated :cheers2:
 
Gary Paul Walker said:
I have long been pondering purchasing a monitor calibration tool such as this, but there are a few on the market (in the budget I'm looking for).
Are there any particular differences between the i1d3 and, for example, the Spyder4Elite? Or is it all in the 'software'?

And as a follow up, because this was something that I have only recently come to understand.. how prevalent is the compatibility between the hardware peripheral made by datacolor, x-rite etc and 3rd party software (such as resolve)?.

Both the i1 Display Pro and Spyder4Elite are easy to get (and in my range) but I would prefer to get the one that's more universally recognised by other applications (and therefore has a longer shelf life for my calibration needs).

OR have I totally misunderstood the way these calibration tools work (which is entirely possible) :)

Many thanks for any thoughts, and digital beers for putting up with the uneducated :cheers2:
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Gary,

get the i1D3 - the Spyder4Elite Elite is "not so good"... and that is putting it nicely.... oh well: it's garbage ;-)

the colorimeter attributes you would want to compare are: read speed, repeatability and low light performance.

You don't have to worry about color accuracy (when comparing colorimeters), as explained in my other post they are all not that accurate and will drift even more over time, so u need a reference spectro meter to create offsets.

The i1D3 is by far the best budget colorimeter available (~US$230), next one better is the basICColor Discus (US$1K) and then the Klein K-10 (US$7K) which is the best colorimeter available.

The probes (--> meter) have nothing to do with Resolve, they interact only with profiling / calibration solutions such as Lightspace, Calman, Argyll, HCFR, ColorNavigator, basICColor. X-Rite Color etc.

Depending on which application you want to use, you'd have to consider which hw they support and in addition these solutions have different versions at different price ranges that support different meters. The i1D3 is an end consumer meter and is usually supported by the cheapest version of any of these apps. The K-10 being a professional meter requires usually a more expensive or the highest sw license.

Now, another thing to consider is that there are various ways of "calibrating" your screen... e.g. via ICC profiles, via DDC (direct display controls, 3pt / 6pt controls etc) or via 3D LUTs.

3D LUTs offer the best display calibration available, and are used in the professional world.

so, u would also need to consider which "route" you're going, let me make that easy for you: u need a 3D LUT. ;-)

so u need either LS, CM or Argyll which all provide 3D LUT creation and then u need a 3D LUT holder which is either a separate LUT box, the internal memory of a screen (if they support it, usually more expensive screens: Eizo, FSI, TVLogic, Penta etc) or an app that supports cLUTs (calibration LUTs) such as Resolve which applies the cLUT to the output signal...


- M
 
Hi Mike,
Firstly many thanks for your generosity of time and effort in your reply - everything you have said makes perfect sense (even to a non-colourist such as myself).

As someone who's always been lucky enough to pass work on to a colourist this is a bit of an adventure / learning experience for me (beyond a basic grade via resolve and speedgrade just for taste).

I'll probably pick up an i1D3 as a start - and then work my way up from there. Sounds like I have a lot more to learn :)
 
Gary Paul Walker said:
Hi Mike,
Firstly many thanks for your generosity of time and effort in your reply - everything you have said makes perfect sense (even to a non-colourist such as myself).

As someone who's always been lucky enough to pass work on to a colourist this is a bit of an adventure / learning experience for me (beyond a basic grade via resolve and speedgrade just for taste).

I'll probably pick up an i1D3 as a start - and then work my way up from there. Sounds like I have a lot more to learn :)
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Garry,

since you're in the UK, get the i1D3 OEM from Light Illusion (UK based).

- M
 
Gary Paul Walker said:
I'm looking at Light Illusion right now - As this is the OEM version, I assume it doesn't ship with iProfiler?
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the OEM version does not ship with the X-Rite sw... Unless you have a very specific need for the X-Rite sw you can disregard it as it is not great for accurate screen calibration (useless IMO), but you do need an i1D3 OEM if you want to use LS... LS does not support the RETAIL version (which ships with the X-Rite sw)...

- M
 
Mike Nagel said:
the OEM version does not ship with the X-Rite sw... Unless you have a very specific need for the X-Rite sw you can disregard it as it is not great for accurate screen calibration (useless IMO), but you do need an i1D3 OEM if you want to use LS... LS does not support the RETAIL version (which ships with the X-Rite sw)...

- M
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Excellent, I understand - Many thanks!! :)
 
Valentine Andreev said:
You can check it yourself with free CalMAN colorchecker.
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Hi, I have released a free version of my calibration disk that includes the required patterns to measure with free version of CalMAN ColorChecker.

For more details follow that post.
 
So from what I'm reading here I need to use a compatible software such as calman correct? My 1-Xrite just arrived today.
 
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