Mini-Primes, longer focal lengths??

[Jonathan Burton]

Hey, does anyone know if there are any plans for longer focal lengths for the Mini-Primes? More choice/focal range might sway me towards the 2/3 interchangeable over the fixed. At this point I can't really see what other advantages it has? (unless you own or have access to good 16mm glass)

 

[Jim Retar]

Aren't the mini primes something like this in s35 equivalent:

28mm
35mm
50mm
85mm
150mm

If you need longer than 150mm you could grab a canon/nikon adapter and then.. due to crop factor, the sky would pretty much be the limit.

 

[Pietro Impagliazzo]

Hey, does anyone know if there are any plans for longer focal lengths for the Mini-Primes? More choice/focal range might sway me towards the 2/3 interchangeable over the fixed. At this point I can't really see what other advantages it has? (unless you own or have access to good 16mm glass)

You have the advantage of a fully mechanical lens and a faster aperture (T1.5).

 

[David Mullen ASC]

Keep in mind that the S16 lenses that Zeiss and Cooke recently made are all in the shorter focal lengths, the logic being that if you need a long focal length, you could just use an S35 prime at that point.

 

[David Rasberry]

Keep in mind that the S16 lenses that Zeiss and Cooke recently made are all in the shorter focal lengths, the logic being that if you need a long focal length, you could just use an S35 prime at that point.

The only problem with ths vis a vis the mini-primes is that would require a mount change since they are not standard PL mount.

 

[Michael Lindsay]

Keep in mind that the S16 lenses that Zeiss and Cooke recently made are all in the shorter focal lengths, the logic being that if you need a long focal length, you could just use an S35 prime at that point.

Zeiss extended their ultra 16 range up to 50mm... in my opinion if you are shooting with S16(ish) chip they really are worth it.

regards

Michael L

 

[Jonathan Burton]

You have the advantage of a fully mechanical lens and a faster aperture (T1.5).

The 50 isn't 1.5, its 2.9 which is a big difference. What will be the widest aperture on the fixed?

 

[Charles Angus]

The 50 isn't 1.5, its 2.9 which is a big difference. What will be the widest aperture on the fixed?

F/2.8.

 

[Charles Angus]

The 50 isn't 1.5, its 2.9 which is a big difference. What will be the widest aperture on the fixed?

F/2.8 - or possibly T/2.8. But around 2.8.

 

[Pietro Impagliazzo]

The 50 isn't 1.5, its 2.9 which is a big difference. What will be the widest aperture on the fixed?

Well, with the FOV you get on 50mm I'd say T2.9 is pretty good.

And you don't have to worry about boosting the ISO a bit with M-X.

 

[Jarek Zabczynski]

Aren't the mini primes something like this in s35 equivalent:

28mm
35mm
50mm
85mm
150mm

If you need longer than 150mm you could grab a canon/nikon adapter and then.. due to crop factor, the sky would pretty much be the limit.

I'd like to know exactly what they translate to. Using the mini prime figures sounds like it would get confusing.

 

[J Davis]

The 50 isn't 1.5, its 2.9 which is a big difference. What will be the widest aperture on the fixed?

f2.4 T2.6

http://reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=518156&postcount=688

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I'd like to know exactly what they translate to. Using the mini prime figures sounds like it would get confusing.

If you're familiar with 2/3" cameras, then you should be familiar with how focal lengths relate to this sensor size.

That said, the mini primes will be available in 6, 8, 16, 25 and 50mm focal lengths.

The 2/3" Scarlet would have a "crop factor" of about 2.46X relative to S35 and of about 3.55X relative to FF35. So the 6mm prime on the wide end would be the equivalent of about a 14mm on an S35 camera or a 21mm on a FF35 camera. They definitely have the wide end covered well. For super-wide, it would be nice to see a 3mm fisheye and perhaps a 3.5 to 4.5mm rectilinear at some point.

A longer focal length would definitely be of interest, but I don't see that fitting into the form factor of the mini primes. As it is, the 50mm is already constricting itself in the mini-prime form factor and has become a T2.9. The 50mm would be the equivalent of about a 125mm on S35. I suppose if one wants longer, there are always other S16 lenses or even SLR lenses. But that would require a mount swap or perhaps a mount adapter. Using B4 mount lenses is an option too, but since they are designed for 3-chip cameras, the mount for these on a RED camera will have optical correction and will introduce a bit of magnification as well as light loss. But still a good option for those who have access to such lenses.

 

[Steve Wake]

Hey shallow dof fans. How does a 25mm f/.95 sound? See here: http://www.cameraquest.com/voigt_m43.htm
A good reason for Red to offer a micro 4/3 adapter for Scarlet cinema. Probably several good reasons as this lens line develops.
And maybe a manufacturer for mini-primes if one is still needed.

 

[Albert Malvaez]

PL Mount Scarlet

PL Mount Scarlet

Have not seen any mention anywhere about possibility of Scarlet available in PL mount. Does anyone recall if this has been covered?
Thanks

 

[David Rasberry]

Have not seen any mention anywhere about possibility of Scarlet available in PL mount. Does anyone recall if this has been covered?
Thanks

Lens mounts are interchangeable for the cinema version. PL mount is definitely one of the options.

 

[MichaelHalsell]

What is the mount type for the red mini primes?

 

[David Rasberry]

What is the mount type for the red mini primes?

Red designed mini-PL type mount. Unique. I hope it is large enough to be able to use flange adapters on C-mount lenses to convert them.

 

[MichaelHalsell]

Red designed mini-PL type mount. Unique. I hope it is large enough to be able to use flange adapters on C-mount lenses to convert them.

Have we seen any naked photos of the mini-PL mount without the lens attached?