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Alister Robbie

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Hey,

Just tracking down info and samples on the Red camera to try and sway our people across to considering the Red camera. Have hit up the website for video samples, and have downloaded the torrent files, but am having trouble with one because no-one is seeding.

I have Juliet2 and BubbleMovie, but there are no seeds for milkgirls1080p.mov, Anyone got it, and anyone care to seed.

Cheers

Al
 
ace - why did I think you were in LA ?
You resident in Syd ? Or just passing thru ?

I'm coming across there soon - end of Jan/early Feb, err unless something crops up. Maybe we could say howdy ...
 
ace - why did I think you were in LA ?
You resident in Syd ? Or just passing thru ?

I'm coming across there soon - end of Jan/early Feb, err unless something crops up. Maybe we could say howdy ...

Because I probably mentioned it previously. I was in LA for a few months working on a couple of projects. Just got back home recently.

You definitely have a ground contact in Sydney!

Edit: Yes, Sydney is my hometown.
 
dude, way cool !
heh - umm your gurl, err ;;;

np - I'll let you know off-list when I know that things are finalised.
cheers, r
 
Were the "Women Drinking Milk" (1080p footage on the Red site) shot against a green screen?

No, I don't think so.
 
Did anybody ever comment on the shadow on the inside of the woman's arm? The one drinking milk. It has a shadow that seems "cut out" to me. I actually just showed the footage to someone who isn't familiar with this particular clip, and he immediately asked: is that shot on a green screen? And the funny thing was I was just wondering the same thing, mainly due to the sharp, almost purple-ish shadows on the inside of the woman's arm.

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A few people have asked me that too, but I believe it's because of the long lens used and the uniformly oof background create the illusion that the image is fake.
 
That would be a really nice key if that were the case!
 
Good lighting, long lens, clean sensor. As I recall, RED folks said this was shot outside on a lot.
 
And I believe this shot was taken with the early RED prototype....
even before they have dialed in REDCODE...
so me thinks that shipping units would even be a cut
above what has been shown so far!
 
As hard as I look at the image I don't see anything that suggests a greenscreen to me, either inside or outside the circled area. There may be some color cast to the shadows but that is more a question of grading.

Back when those were first released, there were a lot of different grades posted in the forum that various people did, with a large variety of color tones and saturation.
 
Good lighting, long lens, clean sensor. As I recall, RED folks said this was shot outside on a lot.
Yup.

Summed it up. This was also shot while they were still improving the sensor dynamics (interpolation) and deciding on the aesthetics of the shutter (which emulation choices). All of that being said, I was VERY impressed with the choices made -> primarily how filmic it seemed and that it had that "magic"...that ineffable something (for me).

They've apparently improved since then, and narrowed down the choices that they were deciding on (with input from folks here).

With NAB, we'll get to see what kind of dynamics and shutter characteristics they've chosen (with the new footage). Can't wait.



:guinness:
 
Thanks for the insights. The footage at NAB will be very interesting indeed.

I also think it's interesting how "very shallow" depth of field behind brightly lit foreground subjects does create almost a "cut-out" effect which seems to remind us of a composite. Just shows how digital tech in general is changing how we read and interpret all images. Almost as though we need something in the mid-ground to tell us this is "real" (and ten years ago would we even have asked this question at all?). But that's a cinematography debate and not necessarily relevant to a "camera test."

I did load up this 1080p clip on my Avid Xpress to see how it played, and the motion looked perfectly filmic to me. Can't wait to hear the responses to Red's newest images at NAB.
 
Yes, it was shot outside the RED office. No green screen or such stuff.
 
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