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MC5 with RED ROCKET

Kaku Ito

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I tried the MC5 and RED ROCKET combination but so far, I haven't been able take advantage of the RR performance.

The RR is working using the REDCINE-X no problem, playing back in full debayer and rendering 2 minute footage in less than 3 minute (to ProRes422 HQ).

Then I take the same clip and place it on MC5 and rendering out is taking 13 minutes. I accidentally opened REDCINE-X while I have the MC5 opened, the alert does say I have another application using the RED ROCKET so, MC5 must be recognizing the RED ROCKET.

I looked through the update document but could not find any specific instruction to set to use RED ROCKET, but I did find a note that explained one of the questions I was looking for.

It did say "Avid supports the use of the REDRocket Accelerator card for transcoding, rendering and mixdown at half or full debayer settings. Playback is not supported. We do not use the video output connections on the card. The card is not supported on 32-bit Windows operating systems."

So, okay, it's too much to Ask Avid to support the realtime playback, so that is fine, but how can I make the RR work for the rendering?
 
Hi,

I just did some tests, and posted about them on the Avid Forums:

http://community.avid.com/forums/t/85371.aspx

It's imperative that you stick to the supported driver/firmware versions (which can be found on RedUser, not on Red.com/support).

Also note that in MC, the Media Creation tool holds an R3D Debayer setting. In order for the Rocket to kick in, you need to set it to Full Debayer.
 
Job ter Burg said:
Also note that in MC, the Media Creation tool holds an R3D Debayer setting. In order for the Rocket to kick in, you need to set it to Full Debayer.
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I think that's it. I couldn't find any of that note in the update note. Thanks.
 
Job ter Burg said:
It's imperative that you stick to the supported driver/firmware versions (which can be found on RedUser, not on Red.com/support).

Also note that in MC, the Media Creation tool holds an R3D Debayer setting. In order for the Rocket to kick in, you need to set it to Full Debayer.
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I think this post just saved lots of folks some time.
 
I think so, too, Mark.

We should check in to other forums, sometimes :).
 
Unfortunately, it didn't work for me.
The media tool setting seems to be full debayer as default and I'm using the 1.3.2 driver/firmware, too.
 
My system is:

Mac Pro 4,1 10.6.4 6GB
ATTO R380 with 8 drives configured at RAID5
Media Composer 5
RED ROCKET 1.3.2 with matching firmware

RED ROCKET is working fine with REDCINE-X.
 
Few things:
Kaku Ito said:
Mac Pro 4,1
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Not familiar with the "4,1" way of describing the machine type. Is this an early 2009 model? 4-core or 2x4-core?

The Rocket needs an x8 electrical PCI slot to work at full capacity. Is it in an x4 or an x16 slot?

10.6.4
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Avid strongly advises to stay 10.6.3 at the moment.
I'm not saying that has anything to do with it, but still.


What transcode times do you get if you choose Half Good Debayer? That will not use Rocket, but I'm curious as to what transcode times you would see without it.

FWIW: I don't think Avid completely supports the Rocket card yet, as the configuration descriptions are vague. A lot of this seems to be under construction.
 
Mac Pro 4,1 is the latest generation. It's an 8 core machine.

RED ROCKET is properly working as in REDCINE-X, doing everything it supposed to. I'm the first generation adopter of RED ROCKET, pretty much wired with properly setting up the system.

But, I'm a long time FCP user and very new with MC, so there might be many things that I haven't properly set up for MC.

Currently 2 minute footage in RCX is rendering less than 3 minute.
MC5 is doing about 14 minutes for the full debayer.
But when I boot RCX while I have MC5 going, then I get the alert saying RR is already used by the another application, so I'm guessing MC5 is seeing the RED ROCKET.
 
Thanks Job,

I will setup a new boot to test it.
 
I believe MC5 is specifically 10.6.3 so that may be your problem.

Also MC5 favors a clean install of Snow Leopard not an upgrade from Leopard.

Not sure how easily that info had been found earlier.
 
Thanks Jason.
 
Today, I had attempt to make the MC5 & RR on DITto, our RED ROCKET equipped MacBook Pro solution, with 10.6.3 with the latest RR software, but it failed. Should I go back to one older software for RR?
 
So I guess that is one older. Thanks.
 
I did little checking and Avid's AMA Plug-in Guide says it needs driver 1.3.2.0 and the firmware 1.1.8.4.

The current one we can download is 1.3.2.2 and 1.1.8.6 and the combination Avid is talking about is no longer available. It was shortly up before the little fix got posted.

Can RED upload a link to the version require for MC5 to work?
 
I think we link to the proper firmware from Avid's Knowledgebase.

Michael
 
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