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Man I love the Epic.

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Great texture. Exceptional latitude. Simply my favorite camera ever.

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5k at 96. Love it.
 
Natural skin tones! No artificial "warming" or "sharpening" filters like some other cameras. The real world, ready to color correct in any direction you want. Nice!
**LIKE** :)
 
+1 James! I took some footage in downtown Oklahoma City, It was dark, real dark and got this out of the EPIC-M and I was shooting 24fps @ 96 shutter (on accident). So much to love! The .TIF grab is 79MB and this is a 1600x844 down res.
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while we were having dinner a guy came over to our table and asked "Is that the new RED camera? Can I take a picture?" It's like having dinner with a rock star:drool:
 
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The shot in the dark doesn't look special. Especially on the young lady, the posted image reminds me of cell phone camera pictures, her face is just crawling with unwanted noise. Would you use this shot for a film?
 
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Will Keir said:
The shot in the dark doesn't look special. Especially on the young lady, the posted image reminds me of cell phone camera pictures, her face is just crawling with unwanted noise. Would you use this shot for a film?
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It's a tiny (640x338) heavily compressed JPEG -- what do you expect?
 
for 1/120th shutter speed, that's impressive low light. With the myriad of post specialists on this forum, I'm sure that would be an easy shot to denoise/sharpen!

I've been very impressed with the low light sensitivity of the camera. It's not as ridiculous as some of the 1080 cameras with bigger photosites, but compared to my 5D, the Epic is a much more pleasing image in the dark. The DSLR likes to over-saturate and destroy detail in the blacks... not so with the Epic, even if there is a bit of noise to work with in post.
 
Will Keir said:
The shot in the dark doesn't look special. Especially on the young lady, the posted image reminds me of cell phone camera pictures, her face is just crawling with unwanted noise. Would you use this shot for a film?
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Yes , the full sized image looks much better and cleaner, no compression, so this could be used if the scene called for such a "mood" shot.

If you remove the operator error of a high shutter (96), the image would be stellar!! The image in the LCD looked pretty good, I should have seen that the shutter was at 96. If this would have been an different camera it would not even been usable, or you would have immediately noticed it in the LCD. That is an issue when changing FPS, as you go up in FPS the shutter adjusts for you, but coming back down it does not, if you forget......then, you forget.
 
I've made that same error already.

I've also forgotten to set the compression back after over-cranking.

I had to make the mistake in order to be mindful of it... I'm just that kind of guy!

Luckily, I made both of those errors on a test shoot, and not with a client's footage!
 
I looked at it for what it was... a shot in the dark! I was impressed. Sure, I realize that it was a compressed image... but having just put my order in for an Epic M today, it's great to know it has that ability.
 
Robert Cook said:
....as you go up in FPS the shutter adjusts for you, but coming back down it does not, if you forget......then, you forget.
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Set your shutter to Relative in the menus, then it will adjust automatically coming back down as well.

HTH!

Cheers from Tokyo,

Paul :)
 
Jason Beckwith said:
I've also forgotten to set the compression back after over-cranking
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This would be a good thing for Red to put into the firmware - since it already offers to switch to the appropriate (best possible) compression for a high framerate, how about offering to switch back to the previously set lower compression when going back to normal framerate (a la relative shutter angle)?

Cheers,

Paul :)
 
Erik Franzén said:
It's a tiny (640x338) heavily compressed JPEG -- what do you expect?
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Well if it's shot on an epic, I would like to see more quality. "heavily compressed" is the issue. With a thread title of "Man I love the Epic" I would expect anyone posting to put up pictures in high quality to represent "why they LOVE their epic." The pictures should be awesome, right?

Why can't we see a 1080p slightly compressed image? Most people working with this material on a USER form should have a 1080p+ resolution monitor.
 
Robert Cook said:
Yes , the full sized image looks much better and cleaner, no compression, so this could be used if the scene called for such a "mood" shot.

If you remove the operator error of a high shutter (96), the image would be stellar!! The image in the LCD looked pretty good, I should have seen that the shutter was at 96. If this would have been an different camera it would not even been usable, or you would have immediately noticed it in the LCD. That is an issue when changing FPS, as you go up in FPS the shutter adjusts for you, but coming back down it does not, if you forget......then, you forget.
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You excitement for the camera is contagious, shooting in the natural moon light has always been an unrealistic dream of mine. But we are one step closer. Has anyone had success shooting the full moon with a zoom lens? As far as I understand it, this is as much a lens issue as a camera issue and I bet with the full moon two nights ago, someone was out there trying.
 
Jason Beckwith said:
I've made that same error already.

I've also forgotten to set the compression back after over-cranking.

I had to make the mistake in order to be mindful of it... I'm just that kind of guy!

Luckily, I made both of those errors on a test shoot, and not with a client's footage!
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So what happens when you make that mistake with a clients footage? Jason doesn't eat from the kraft truck that night?
 
Curt Pair said:
I looked at it for what it was... a shot in the dark! I was impressed. Sure, I realize that it was a compressed image... but having just put my order in for an Epic M today, it's great to know it has that ability.
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A cell phone camera has that ability too, but you are not spending 50k for a shot in the dark. You are getting much more. Hope the epic lives up to your expectations.
 
Will Keir said:
You excitement for the camera is contagious, shooting in the natural moon light has always been an unrealistic dream of mine. But we are one step closer. Has anyone had success shooting the full moon with a zoom lens? As far as I understand it, this is as much a lens issue as a camera issue and I bet with the full moon two nights ago, someone was out there trying.
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No problem at all shooting the full moon with the right lens and tripod – you'll be surprised how strong the light is! But shooting a moonlit scene is a very different story…
 
Will Keir said:
A cell phone camera has that ability too, but you are not spending 50k for a shot in the dark. You are getting much more. Hope the epic lives up to your expectations.
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Ok, taking a screen grab off video is a totally different beast, most cameras do not hold up very well doing screen grabs and the grab I posted was double compressed (my bad) once through Picasa and then on the up-load to the site. I will get a uncompressed grab down sized from REDCINE-X up asap.

I will, in the future, only post "Mind Blowing" grabs or footage. :drool:
 
Robert Cook said:
+1 James! I took some footage in downtown Oklahoma City, It was dark, real dark and got this out of the EPIC-M and I was shooting 24fps @ 96 shutter (on accident). So much to love! The .TIF grab is 79MB and this is a 1600x844 down res.
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while we were having dinner a guy came over to our table and asked "Is that the new RED camera? Can I take a picture?" It's like having dinner with a rock star:drool:
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Lucky you, it could have been a robbery
 
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