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Major Announcement- July 6th

I'm on a much needed, long overdue vacation in Israel and all I think about is this announcement...
 
Actually wouldn't mind if it was a Red Smart Watch. I don't like my Apple Watch (1st version) and I think no one has got this right. Would be great with Red's design philosophy a watch that had fool control's functionality and more!
 
5 hours!
 
Hmm. I can't quite consolidate the information on all of this. All of the "quotes" below is me paraphrasing roughly out of memory.

Jim: "Tell all family and friends", "If they miss it, they will be pissed", "Keep credit cards ready", "Revolutionary product that effects lifestyle of ordinary people", "You can buy more than one".

I don't care much for hyperbolic statements. I think they are EXTREMELY damaging to a person's or company's credibility. And you can't say "duh, OBVIOUSLY we put some spin on it to give it traction!" after the fact. The damage will be done. Hopefully Jim knows this, and going forward I'll take his statements at face value.

The feeling I get is that this should be a product for "the masses" and this is where I run into problem number one. What product could RED possibly make (orders via red.com confirmed) that my wife wants to buy? The Apple Watch is a good example. Now, my wife has one of those despite not being a 'techie". It's a product that can be made into being almost whatever you want, depending on what apps you use. I think it's a great product, and if you look at the business aspect of that singular product, most companies would be happy if that was all they made and sold. And YET, it can IN NO WAY be described as a revolutionary product on a global scale, since even if I see them here and there they are not THAT common yet.

That said, for Jim's communication to ring true at the end, Apple Watch level "invention" is the entry level in terms of 'scope'.

No product launch of RED so far makes me feel confident that they could manufacture and deliver a hardware product of that level of complexity to so many people. Now, a product doesn't necessarily need to be complex to be amazing. But what thing—related to RED—that isn't technically too advanced could appeal to so many people? Especially those with no prior interest in RED's current products (like "family and friends")?

Most people don't want a camera today—they'll just use their mobile phones. If someone thinks the masses are looking for a product to produce images at a higher fidelity… hehe… I'll just keep on smiling until you tell me to stop… Nothing relating to cameras or lenses, even if it's designed for mobile phones, applies to Jim's description of this launch.

*and yet comments here talk about 8k projectors!??!?? WTF??!*

In terms of storage/backup there could be something there as almost no one does it right and it concerns everyone in this day and age. But it's not very sexy and you don't really notice a proper backup solution in your daily life until that single moment when the sky falls down and you suddenly need it. Great, but not life changing. There are already good and cheap solutions but most people don't even use those so…

Nah, it doesn't add up for me. I think it's actually quite possible for Jim to launch a COOL NEW product. I'll definitely give him that. I just think the target audience is much smaller than what I'm lead to believe. We'll see soon enough.

Oh, and sincerely, GOOD LUCK!
 
AndreeMarkefors said:
Hmm. I can't quite consolidate the information on all of this. All of the "quotes" below is me paraphrasing roughly out of memory.

Jim: "Tell all family and friends", "If they miss it, they will be pissed", "Keep credit cards ready", "Revolutionary product that effects lifestyle of ordinary people", "You can buy more than one".

I don't care much for hyperbolic statements. I think they are EXTREMELY damaging to a person's or company's credibility. And you can't say "duh, OBVIOUSLY we put some spin on it to give it traction!" after the fact. The damage will be done. Hopefully Jim knows this, and going forward I'll take his statements at face value.

The feeling I get is that this should be a product for "the masses" and this is where I run into problem number one. What product could RED possibly make (orders via red.com confirmed) that my wife wants to buy? The Apple Watch is a good example. Now, my wife has one of those despite not being a 'techie". It's a product that can be made into being almost whatever you want, depending on what apps you use. I think it's a great product, and if you look at the business aspect of that singular product, most companies would be happy if that was all they made and sold. And YET, it can IN NO WAY be described as a revolutionary product on a global scale, since even if I see them here and there they are not THAT common yet.

That said, for Jim's communication to ring true at the end, Apple Watch level "invention" is the entry level in terms of 'scope'.

No product launch of RED so far makes me feel confident that they could manufacture and deliver a hardware product of that level of complexity to so many people. Now, a product doesn't necessarily need to be complex to be amazing. But what thing—related to RED—that isn't technically too advanced could appeal to so many people? Especially those with no prior interest in RED's current products (like "family and friends")?

Most people don't want a camera today—they'll just use their mobile phones. If someone thinks the masses are looking for a product to produce images at a higher fidelity… hehe… I'll just keep on smiling until you tell me to stop… Nothing relating to cameras or lenses, even if it's designed for mobile phones, applies to Jim's description of this launch.

*and yet comments here talk about 8k projectors!??!?? WTF??!*

In terms of storage/backup there could be something there as almost no one does it right and it concerns everyone in this day and age. But it's not very sexy and you don't really notice a proper backup solution in your daily life until that single moment when the sky falls down and you suddenly need it. Great, but not life changing. There are already good and cheap solutions but most people don't even use those so…

Nah, it doesn't add up for me. I think it's actually quite possible for Jim to launch a COOL NEW product. I'll definitely give him that. I just think the target audience is much smaller than what I'm lead to believe. We'll see soon enough.

Oh, and sincerely, GOOD LUCK!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21h0G_gU9Tw&t=2m30s

Sorry couldn't resist... The Third Man 1949 "Cuckoo clock speech"... (Yes I know the Swiss do other things too lol).
 
My final bet is glassless AR; a sort of beaming images onto the retina directly to produce super high quality "screens" instead of regular VR, AR, projectors, screens etc.
I'm pretty certain I'm going to be wrong, but it's the only thing I can come up with that would actually be revolutionary AND be practical for anyone. Just imagine sitting at a café and have a perfect screen in mid air and just a tiny keyboard beside your coffee :tongue_smilie:
 
This will get taken down as have all my other posts, so I guess I'm posting to whomever is doing that.

I haven't said that I'm pretty sure it is glasses manufactured in conjunction with Magic Leap. And while Jim said AR and VR are dead because of the "goggles", he did not say Mixed Reality was dead and made no reference to glasses.

However, since this will not see the light of day I feel secure in posting it now with no danger of stealing Jim's thunder.

Not completely sure how it will work as Magic Leap is very close to the vest, but this has so many uses other than entertainment that they probably haven't scratched the surface yet.

I don't see the glasses as having recording capability... rather as players of pre-packaged apps and such that are true retinal displays. Maybe they will evolve to some sort of hologram-on-demand but I'm thinking they are not there yet. Being an early adopter may mean a first-in-line place to receive upgrades as they are available.

This is IMO the culmination of human/tech interface technology and I think it is age agnostic since it can make the lives of all generations better... and perhaps longer.

Thank you Magic Leap and Jim. And if I am wrong, I will sulk.
 
Eric Lange said:
Sorry couldn't resist... The Third Man 1949 "Cuckoo clock speech"... (Yes I know the Swiss do other things too lol).
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That's all well and good. And since I'm from Sweden (not the same thing), I don't even feel offended, if that's what a you meant. =)

Have you come up with a credible product that fits Jim's description that you feel confident RED could deliver on a global scale?
 
Álex Montoya said:
It has to be an impulsive buy, too. Not sure everyone would jump into projected-to-retina-AR without some previous testing.
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As long as it's not lasers, it shouldn't be much different than being outside a sunny day. It's just light.
 
This all seems like Jim J watched the opening of the 2015 Danny Boyle/Sorkin 'Steve Jobs' film and was inspired by the persistent motif and vision quest presented in that movie of changing the world for everyone.

Dates all line up. For guessing the genesis of this latest product launch correctly I want a free whatever it is.

Thanks.
 
Guys, I’m spilling the beans... It’s a time machine. I’ve had it for a few months now and it’s so amazing. But I have to remember to be here at 9AM.. Or whatever time it is wherever/whenever I’m at to order today. Otherwise the very fabric of the universe could unravel.
 
Ok, serious guess now that we are so close...
A ticket - a ticket to space, but for more of a "consumer" price. You will want to buy more than one for the family/significant other. Space, time, even the ecology point of view (seeing the earth from out there can change your perspective). Virgin Galactic gets it's lunch eaten.
Either that or a Segway replacement. ;)
 
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