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Made in California...

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Hey, Jim, don't let it get you down. :grouphug:

The thing about PR is that it's often difficult to forecast what editors want to print.

All successful marketing is driven by true insights of the perceived needs of the people to whom you're marketing, not what the product is. You've got establish the needs and then find a way of telling your story so that the product fills the needs in a new and interesting way. In this case it's not finding the needs of the public, it's over-delivering on the needs of talentless hacks in order to get print/pixels.

It's true the local aspect comes first, as that approach sells papers/eyeballs. That's why with disasters you often see headlines like 'LOCAL FAMILY KILLED IN AIRCRASH/EARTHQUAKE/BLACK FRIDAY STAMPEDE', that sort of thing. So a 'Made in America Irvine' press release will work for the very local press, and a 'Made in California' press release will work for something like the Los Angeles Times, so long as there's something else in the story to make it compelling.

If I was Red and wanted to get into the LA Times, though, I would still push it harder. Something like 'Irvine Company's Innovations Are Democratising Cinema', or 'How a Local Company is Singlehandedly Creating a New Film Industry and Beating the Big Boys at the Same Time'. Something compelling with a bit of drama. I'm sure your PR agency could come up with something like that.

So a 'Made in America' PR release might work. But if you were aiming at the industry press or tech press, then you need something cool and guerrilla to make the jaundiced hacks step away from their junket buffets, jollies and perks for print - something that makes them sit up and take notice. If they're not already wowed by the '5K RAW/Scarlet Price Bracket' story then we have to hit them with something twisted and cool. Oakley was a hit because it became globally cool with the opinion leaders, so I take that as evidence that you already know how to do this. But Oakley was, for the sake of comparison, a consumer product where Red is not. But I bet that Red's innovations now are driving the consumer products of 2017 and beyond.

The question is 'How do we make Red cool to a bunch of people who are already in the pockets of Canon etc?'

It's clear that the web is working well for you within the existing fan base, judging by the way the attendees at the Scarlet launch were able to keep everyone informed when Red.com crashed, so you've got a good viral thing going. And the 'Shot on Red' logo is cooler than 'Intel Inside', so that will work well within the industry. The branding is very strong. And with your new aims of getting out of backorder the reputation will surely improve, but that will take time.

The day the first Scarlet was delivered to Tonaci was a PR opportunity missed, IMHO. First camera delivered within three weeks of ordering from RED? That was big news. The next event is the day you get out of backorder. This is worthy of a big party and press release. :thumbsup: Invite the press junket boys, have a big day and give them all a ride in your armoured car. Fit them out with Red branded clothes and badges, get them to meet Bill Paxton and Peter Jackson.

And if that doesn't work, get them drunk and film them in compromising circumstances with ladies of negotiable affection. :biggrinjester:

Please excuse my wild ramblings
 
I think most people feel the same way, regardless of where they live. If I was Norwegian and lived in Oslo, I doubt I'd have much incentive to set up a company in Orange County. ; )

Lucas

I live In France and i definitely feel the same ! And i am really glad that everything is made in the usa as a sign of strong quality and a respect of your human environemnt !

And i agree with the fact that every company have to take care of his people first , his citizen first , his neighboor first , and then the rest : by helping the poor country , in order to live in a better world , by stoping to exploit them .
 
I would think that RED EPIC and Scarlet being made in California would be big news... apparently not.

We have set the goal of creating jobs in the US . It is certainly a precedent for us. Apparently this is not big or important news... to the news gatherers.

It appears to be an assumption that everything electronic should be made in China. Why not? Apple is.

I am quite surprised that no big publication seems to be the least bit interested in the fact that there is another option.

No matter.

RED continues to beat its Asian counterparts in every respect.

Designed in CA. Prototyped in CA. Manufactured in CA.

"The Hobbit" "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" "Prometheus" "The Muppets" "The Amazing Spiderman" "Jack the Giant Killer" "Contagion" "Underworld 4" "The Great Gatsby" "Total Recall"....

Jim

This is big news certainly. But IMHO, RED has even bigger news just in terms of the industry shift they have created, and that story is not being heard yet either. Patience, Jim... its what we've had to practice waiting for our cameras. ;))
 
Jim,

It's only a matter of time until the media figures out how THEY want to spin the RED story. It's too big in so many ways. I know you're not asking for personal attention - you're rightly proud of what you and the entire RED team have accomplished. But the easiest way for them to spin the RED story is the same way history is approached - via the "great man" theory. Of course RED would not exist without you. But when RED starts getting the media attention it deserves, you'll also likely get more personal attention as the man behind Jackson, Soderbergh, et.al. With the successful Made in America/California/Orange County banner - and in a tech field more associated with Europe in the past and Asia now - politicians will try to jump on your bandwagon like dogs on RED meat.

Hope you can stay above the muck and avoid the public colonoscopy that often lies down the road to celebrity.

Thanks for all you and your team have accomplished and will accomplish.
 
China makes widges, America makes art..... Red def. falls into the art category.
Obviously you have never been to china, or you might have a less ignorant view. I am pleased that such times like these Red has chosen to produce their products in America, and hopefully bring back true American craftsmanship which has been outsourced for far far too long. I don't think this should be a nationalist thing or devalue the quality products made in other parts of the world. Americans should be proud to buy American. I am proud to buy Canadian, Chinese are proud to buy Chinese and Thai people are proud to buy Thai. The one thing we all hold in common is we are all proud to buy the best. And currently that happens to be made in Southern California.
 
True. And that has left Germany with a lot of infrastructure and competence everytime the economy has gone bust. ...

(off topic)
... and so, right now Germany is leading the economy in Europe ...
- although some of the rest go bust !??? ... "in house" does not seem to be such a bad model ...

... looking from Italy ... after 10 years .... time to get one leg back into german economics ... :-))

On topic:
I would think that RED EPIC and Scarlet being made in California would be big news... apparently not. ...

I think it is big news ... back to quality is a great move (!)
And if one can show, how to do it, being the

"Californian Underdog - Worldwide Technology Leader and Profitable" ...
... creating 400 jobs in ... (x)... years out of the blue.

with products not only in one, but many of of the most prestigious industries ...
(help for editors: Movies, Fashion, TV, Photography, ... and soon to come high end Presentation Technology" .... )

well, what headline would an editor in chief need to pick up the cell phone ... and get the facts straight ... :-)

This is great. nothing less.

When i was a kid, there where two things that mattered on a product ... "Made in America" ... or "Made in Germany" .... loved both .... a lot.



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Anyhow, i can also follow, why everyone is out of tune with what matters, no surprise.
 
Maybe you can write an article on the advantages of producing a product in the US, and what is gained by such actions, (using RED as an example) and submit it to entrepreneurial magazines? I would be very intrestedin reading it!

(And what Paul Russell said.)

Being made in the US is what kept me drifting from RED. Now I cannot wait for my Scarlet order to be complete.
 
The middle class in the United States has been ravaged by the loss of manufacturing job. The "craftsmen" class has suffered a lot, and a lot of workmanship went overseas. We hardly MAKE anything anymore.

Thanks RED for drawing the line on this. It enriches this country to have American designed products manufactured in the US.
 
ABC news with Dianne Sawyer is actually doing a series about Made in America. Since Scott Pelley became the anchor for CBS, I haven't watched ABC so I don't know if it is still ongoing. But they look for common household items.

I think like when foreign made autos became the standard for quality, it's the same with electronics... ipso facto since electronics haven't been an American target for some time. The auto quality mantle is slowly shifting back to American made cars but it takes time to convince a public. It seems we as a society have been concentrating too much on being leaders in the Information commodity during this so-called Information Age, and because of that our population and media aren't looking for much news outside of that field. Business magazines don't seem to care what a company makes or where... just how that relates to profits and share price.

From my own frustrating experience in trying to explain to friends and family how Red Digital Cinema is changing us over to the "New Visual", I suspect it's going to take some time before the positive message is mainstream about how a camera company not only changed our visuals, but where their product was made. Maybe Red should understand the public skepticism. After all, the news media did widely cover the negativity of Solyndra.

Word of mouth seems to be the most trusted source of information now. It appears small has taken on a new shine... you know, "close your Bank of America or Wells Fargo account and move it to a local credit union." And while Red isn't small by most standards, it is still small in comparison to multi-product conglomerates like sony, canon, panasonic etc.

As this revolt against "too big to fail" continues, I think Red will eventually be recognized for being one of the leaders of the new nearby warm and friendly business model.
 
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Maybe you can write an article on the advantages of producing a product in the US, and what is gained by such actions, (using RED as an example) and submit it to entrepreneurial magazines? I would be very intrestedin reading it!

Being made in the US is what kept me drifting from RED. Now I cannot wait for my Scarlet order to be complete.

People are looking for strong quality , and product made with some dignity as a respectable price .

Slowely we start to hate those company who exploit everyone , and try to make as much as posible benefits , by always using the less expensive product and manufacturer, paying you like shit , and made their country look like shit by creating some unemployement, poverty .....................only because they are egoist.

The first revolution was in France May be the next one is going to be in the USA !
 
People are looking for strong quality , and product made with some dignity as a respectable price .

Slowely we start to hate those company who exploit everyone , and try to make as much as posible benefits , by always using the less expensive product and manufacturer, paying you like shit , and made their country look like shit by creating some unemployement, poverty .....................only because they are egoist.

The first revolution was in France May be the next one is going to be in the USA !


I seem to remember there was a little “ditty” in 1776…in the "colonies" wasn’t there…?

But originally as a Brit we like to think we “pulled out” of the “colonies” to deal with the French…

I guess there have been many US revolutions of one sort or another since then. Hopefully this continues to be the case or we will all be swallowed up by “stagflation”…

Salut!

(P.s. I love France too lived there on and off for over a decade).

Eric


...
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FRENCH “Your Statue of Liberty is still on back-order”)…

US “Don’t worry we’re cool with that, it’s not every day you get an awesome monumental and stupendous free statue from the French people to celebrate “freedom” “liberty” and “justice” to all.. etc”
 
I would like to point out that apart from the blind and senseless isolationism that often seems to come
along with the 'made in USA' discussion Red has shown something that actually works in a globalized economy.

They make a product that is so innovative, so high tech and so far ahead that it most probably
not feasible to produce it in China. And that at a price point that is below their competition.

I salute that.


I would think that RED EPIC and Scarlet being made in California would be big news... apparently not.

We have set the goal of creating jobs in the US . It is certainly a precedent for us. Apparently this is not big or important news... to the news gatherers.

It appears to be an assumption that everything electronic should be made in China. Why not? Apple is.

I am quite surprised that no big publication seems to be the least bit interested in the fact that there is another option.

No matter.

RED continues to beat its Asian counterparts in every respect.

Designed in CA. Prototyped in CA. Manufactured in CA.

"The Hobbit" "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" "Prometheus" "The Muppets" "The Amazing Spiderman" "Jack the Giant Killer" "Contagion" "Underworld 4" "The Great Gatsby" "Total Recall"....

Jim
 
Sometimes the press is slow to learn.... I'm new here. Finally switching over from film to digital. Red has my heart now. One of the biggest reasons I purchased a Scarlet was it was made in California. I was made here too (four generations). I love this state!--- People are noticing your efforts. In the industry, on the streets. Believe me, believe us. To start a movement you start with a dream, then the people will following. You've got us here. "If you build it, they will come". Keep going Red. You're fighting the good fight!

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I'm a big supporter of Made In USA. I believe in the RED products and what you guys are doing over here 100%. I couldn't be happier with my epic !
 
With todays Global economy & outsourcing mentality what Jim and the Red team have done is nothing short of remarkable. Not only did they push the digital acquisition model forward they did it where it is supposed to be impossible to do. The USA has seen its manufacturing numbers diminish annually for decades. Red's intellectual property could easily have been put up for bid in the world marketplace, but it was not.

As Jim said, "Designed in CA. Prototyped in CA. Manufactured in CA" - Built in the USA

Perhaps Jim is atop another global trend about to emerge "local manufacturing"

The vision of "Red" to do what they have done, in the way they have done it, where they have done it is worthy of press a lot of press!
 
Now… if you [Jim/RED] provided business “mentorship” and access to some of the same “brains” that constitute RED for various innovative small companies going from start up to early stage self sufficiency through to well designed growth, then that might also start something (“note worthy”). I.e. focus on what the US can do best and also lead by example and start similar modes and models elsewhere in the US? But that takes time perhaps in an otherwise killer schedule?

Eric
 
I'd like to know more. Specifically what have you discovered to be the advantages?

I don't mean by bashing any other countries industry. I'm hoping its more than a form of patriotism or national pride. Both noble but I think you are the type that makes smart business decisions (except for trying to start a camera company from scratch, besides that).

If anything, we should restrict what is advantageous to manufacture abroad and what manufacturing should stay at home. Indiscriminate push to manufacture high tech equipment abroad only because it is less expensive to do so it may bite us very badly back.

We had very bad incident of spyware installed on our network. We traced it to Russian IP addresses.
We ask Microsoft to help us, well they switched us to MS support team that we traced to be located in China.
We asked to escalate to top MS Support Manager and in couple of days we were contacted by another MS Support Team member working on the Asia’s Time Zone schedule.
Well he advised us to use antivirus software that is created in....Russia...:-)
I think MS have to bring back home some of its Asias support resources.

Just read this, if you are looking for minimum justification why we should manufacture high tech at home.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203733504577022010229695028.html

http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/china-and-russia-using-cyberspies-steal-us-secrets
 
Close parallels to the Virgin America story

Close parallels to the Virgin America story

Virgin America, also made in California, albeit branded by the Great Bearded One, but in name only. A 100% US effort, thousands of jobs created, and still hiring.

So many tried to beat the company down, force it to close, senators, trade unions, lots of lawyers, pulling all the stops. Even other airlines' mechanics defacing their aircraft on the ramps, that's how downright ugly it got.

The company pulled through all of that, the product so far and away superior to the rest, at the same price point, why would you fly any other airline if you had the Virgin America product to choose from?

The Red Camera Company has very much the same MO, IMO.

Congrats Jim et al,
 
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