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Los Angeles Red Users group

I'm not to interested in this price thing you all are talking about, but me still not able to afford a Red Camera would still love to come to the group meetings so that when I'm done saving up I can get it, and know a whole lot about it.
 
I am in Santa Monica. I am # 1050 so projected date I will get mine is September or October.

I have SD 302 3 channel mixer
Schoeps mic with MK41 cap
1 Sennheiser wireless system (plug plus body back and one reciever)
1 handleld mic
1 DVX100A
1 DVX100B
8ft Kessler crane
tripod
2 kino flo 4 banks
2 kino flo parabeam 200
1 - 1k fresnel
1 - 250 watt fresnel


I also am a photographer
I shoot digital with Nikon D200
I have lots of strobes and softboxes.

I bust my ass and can often do the work of several people. I dislike being on set and standing around 90% of the time so only accept work where I can have lots of duties and be kept busy.

I must be paid and also paid for any equipment I use on the shoot.

-Greg
310 980 0239
admin@badmac.com
 
In the coming months I wanted to put together an acting reel, something a little out of the ordinary. If anyone wanted to help me make it by contributing lighting equipment, black screens for a backdrop, boom mics, etc. I would be most appreciative, along with allowing you to use my RED camera in future projects free of charge.

-Vincent
 
Holosynthetic said:
In the coming months I wanted to put together an acting reel, something a little out of the ordinary. If anyone wanted to help me make it by contributing lighting equipment, black screens for a backdrop, boom mics, etc. I would be most appreciative, along with allowing you to use my RED camera in future projects free of charge.

-Vincent
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Vincent:

Since I'm reservation-holder #1148, and you're reservation-holder #510, that sounds like an attractive offer! Give a call when you get it! Also, you're welcome to list your RED gear in my online database of RED owners in the soon-to-be-launched, RED411.net site!

Best regards,

Ralph Oshiro
818-535-4743
 
Wow, that's a great offer form a seasoned lighting DP/operator like Ralph - your new reel will really look fab! What the hell is an actor doing with RED reservation #510?

Just kidding, I know you are also a filmmaker - go get 'em.
 
well the reel would be relatively easy to set up, considering it would all take place in an all black environment. My reasoning for this is that all to often an actor will use their environment to make their character more believable, I however want to deliver a character without distractions or other actors. If I can't make you believe in my character in a raw situation, then adding in an appropriate environment won't do anything but mask the problem.

The setup however would include 10-15 different characters, non scripted, purely improv.

what am I doing with RED #510?...hoping to skip the casting couch ;)
 
Ralph Oshiro said:
Clients don't balk, because when you tell them, "Well, Big Time Rental Company charges $XXX," they go, "okay." Because they know they're typically getting a higher level of customer service from an owner/operator than from a large rental house, and that if Big Time Rental Company charges that rate, it must be a fair market rate.
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I disagree with this assertion, unless it's a low quality Rental Company. Actually, the Big Guys can offer much better customer service in many cases because they have more resources to offer. "You want a full set of Ultra Primes or an Innovision lens with that Red? Sure, no problem. How about a Dutch Head or a set of those special filters? Oh, a grip bashed the camera by mistake? No problem, we'll send another Red out." The Red Camera is $17K. It's accessories could easily go over $100K.

That puts us owner/operators at a big disadvantage. It can also put your reputation as a d.p. at risk if something goes wrong with your camera. A lot of producers and directors have a higher comfort level going through a reputable rental house.

Owner/operators will have to work hard to build and maintain the confidence of their clients. One big opportunity for this user group is to share information as well as equipment and accessories.

Jim McKinney
 
hey this sounds pretty cool-la red user group. I haven't posted much but hello, I can imagine this group is going to be the largest. I hope I don't get buried by all the talented people out here. Count me in for RED camera tests in la, or if you need an assistant...

~Koa
 
Cinegear Expo this year. Any word that the RED might be there?

-Jim McKinney
 
I'm not sure we'll be able to set an "OSRP" -type base price, probably we'll need to do as Ralph and set our prices acording to the rental houses in town - and some rental houses here are very excited about Red...

I think demand will dictate the rates but the camera's too versatile for a standard rental structure. Will a client who needs (and understands) 1080 want to pay as much as the client who needs (and understands) 4K? Do we just shoot 4K and down-rez it for them? And who pays for that RedCine time then?

But I am totally into a LA group... find a B-body, get (or be) a RedCine tech, refer people for jobs you can't take... sounds great to me.

Steven Parker, Los Angeles, #1037 (Sept/Oct - I hope!)
 
LA Red User's Group

LA Red User's Group

Shane V8F said:
Does anyone have an idea on how many people living in Southern California, pre ordered a RED?
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I guess we'll start to find out once the user's group comes together. Anyone want to step up to the plate to run it? I can help out with some of the administration.

Also, I'm curious if there are any Red registration holders in the vicinity of Century City.
 
Yeah, I'm pretty close to Century City. You too? I often walk over their in the mornings for exercise.
 
Cool. I'm sure there will be a ton of people in L.A. who have REDs coming.

When people say the rental prices for the RED will go "way down" after a while, I'm wondering what exactly that means. I mean, for instance, if one has a full set of accessories (a few zoom lenses, a prime set, etc.), a great tripod, good matte box, on-set laptop for capturing and logging, a backup RED camera body in case of failure, etc. etc., I would assume you could still get a fairly good amount of money per day from a package like that? I consider fairly good anything above $1,000, and that seems a bit low to me, but if that was worst case scenario for all that equipment, it wouldn't be world's end.
 
I've heard that Clairmont Cameras has ordered ten RED cameras, so once they get them and decide on a rental price, I'm sure the smaller rental places will probably use that as a guide and offer the same thing slightly cheaper. Otherwise, it is going to be a bit of chaotic for awhile in the rental market regard ing the rental prices as the cameras stagger in to different people. So for the first six months or so, I'd expect some wild variations.

But I'll take a wild guess without any real facts to back it up (!) and guess that the major rental houses will probably rent the RED body in the $700/day range, so with a few necessary accessories (like a recorder) it will be more like $1000/day, which puts it in the Varicam rental range. 3-day week rental on a $700/day body is $2,100, so 9 weeks of rental, you'd pay for the body.

Beats renting the Sony F23, which will probably be a $3000/day rental. But despite what some people think, there are plenty of orders for the F23 coming in -- Clairmont has already bought and received three of them.
 
mine will be 450 a day for the body with one 350gig drive, 2 batteries and charger.
$600 with evf, grips, rail, handle (basically body, recorder, production pack, another 350gig harddrive) another 2 batteries and charger.

$750 a day with all of the above plus nikon lens set, redrock mattebox, redrock follow focus,
 
I'm in OC.

Hopefully Clairmont and Able and some other houses will have REDs with data ports and RAID arrays to rent for people who want to overcrank at 4K.
 
zakaree said:
mine will be 450 a day for the body with one 350gig drive, 2 batteries and charger.
$600 with evf, grips, rail, handle (basically body, recorder, production pack, another 350gig harddrive) another 2 batteries and charger.

$750 a day with all of the above plus nikon lens set, redrock mattebox, redrock follow focus,
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Well, when I need to rent a second camera, I think I know who I'm calling. :)

I think the first few months of RED rentals until the cameras get out to the 500's or so will be a bit chaotic and varied base on supply/demand.

I have reservation 89 and my co-workers are arguing whether we should rent it at all for the primary concern of "What happens to our production if it is broken on a production prior to ours?" Valid question.
 
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