Long shots

[Christoffer Glans]

I'm doing a shoot of an event tomorrow and it's gonna be about an hour non-stop from rec to finish. I'm wondering about some precautions to take for this, like not filming in adaptive-quiet instead just adaptive and also use external power. But is there anything to think of for long shots like these? My biggest concern is if something happens and I'm recording only one file, would that make it unable to pack it into R3D? Is there a way to shoot so that it's safe anyway?

How do you shoot long stuff?

 

[Chris Henze]

Hi, I routinely record takes that interviews/events for longer than one hour with my Dragon. I use adaptive fan without issue and have had no issues with multi-segmented r3d files. Sometimes I used RED XL batteries, which when they're new last over 1 hour and have also used the AC adaptor.

Only consideration is what compression you feel that you can get away with. I use 17:1 to keep file sizes a bit smaller and haven't felt any loss of quality.

 

[Jake Wilganowski]

Whoa 17:1?!!!

Christopher with r3d's if the power cuts out for example you only lose the last 4g chunk of the file. It creates new files every 4g. Although the entire clip wont playback in camera, but if you look at the file structure you'd be able to salvage all but the last chunk

 

[Björn Benckert]

I'm doing a shoot of an event tomorrow and it's gonna be about an hour non-stop from rec to finish. I'm wondering about some precautions to take for this, like not filming in adaptive-quiet instead just adaptive and also use external power. But is there anything to think of for long shots like these? My biggest concern is if something happens and I'm recording only one file, would that make it unable to pack it into R3D? Is there a way to shoot so that it's safe anyway?

How do you shoot long stuff?

No worries.

But to make sure, it takes just a bit more than an hour to make a proper test

You can put on a V lock and AC power to make sure you got power no matter what. But even a decent sized Vlock will run for far more than an hour. And the r3d´s cuts in segments and cause no problems no matter of length.

If you record prores on the side that will be fragmented into bits or if you formated with the new beta feature it will not and you will get long quicktimes which is a bit scary. Personally I would go for r3d recording and skip the prores / proxy stuff to make more room on the SSD.

 

[ignacio guzman]

I just shot a series of long take content with my Epic-W. I got a couple of Proxy Error messages with the last round of Beta firmware installed. (Not the release candidate that just got put out) The proxy errors stopped my recordings. That was annoying so be prepared for that.

 

[Richard Lonsdale]

I've had lot of proxy errors on the release candidate software. I was recording R3D and a ProRes proxy with baked in LUT. Switching the file selection to just R3D and then back to R3D + ProRes seemed to make it work ok for a while, but then the errors would return. I, using the 512gb cards, so I wonder if they are not quite as fast as the newer ones.

 

[Robert Berger]

Hi Christoffer,
I made very long takes 6K R3D with proress LT from just under a hour, no problem. Before you shoot make a uttilities formating of your card. don't use 4 channel audio , use only the last released firmware and you will be fine. Good luck and let the RED force be with you
Best Robert

 

[Christoffer Glans]

No worries.

You can put on a V lock and AC power to make sure you got power no matter what. But even a decent sized Vlock will run for far more than an hour.

Can I run V-LOCk and AC at the same time? What's it primarily using in that case? Will it use AC and if the power gets cut it stays powered with the battery? I'm trying to keep 3 batteries loaded for some hand held shots after the event, so I don't want to run out of a battery even with AC on.

 

[Björn Benckert]

Can I run V-LOCk and AC at the same time? What's it primarily using in that case? Will it use AC and if the power gets cut it stays powered with the battery? I'm trying to keep 3 batteries loaded for some hand held shots after the event, so I don't want to run out of a battery even with AC on.

Yes as i remember ac is primary. And you should be able to pull one of the two without issues. But not two at the same time

But again possibly something worth testing before as i think it behaves a bit different with diffferent battery plats but not sure.

And stay out of prores. It goes without saying anything with the nam "Pro" in it is not really pro its just named in such manor so the non pro user should think it is. Think of one and you know im right.